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Americas Political Landscape & Its Effects On Foreign Policy

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I’ve always had issue with this during times of war. I’m mean seriously it’s a war is the man in the office more sacrosanct than the private in the muddy ditch.
It might not be strategically smart or generate the outcome you desire.
But if a grunts life is on the line what makes the president impervious to the same threat. This is history except when monarchs tried to elevate officers and leaders a separate from the gore.
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I agree. But If they did hit the president, like say Saddam Hussien tried, then they would get clobbered.
 
Torcher said:
I agree. But If they did hit the president, like say Saddam Hussien tried, then they would get clobbered.
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Well sure there is always consequences to any action. I’m not saying there isn’t.
But their is no proven maxim that this always the wrong choice.
 
Socom7 said:
He also said this:

Remember in Helsinki when a 3rd rate reporter asked me, essentially, who I trusted more, President Putin of Russia, or our “Intelligence” lowlifes. My instinct at the time was that we had really bad people in the form of James Comey, McCabe (whose wife was being helped out by Crooked Hillary while Crooked was under investigation!), Brennan, Peter Strzok (whose wife is at the SEC) & his lover, Lisa Page. Now add McGonigal & other slime to the list. Who would you choose, Putin or these Misfits?

That was three weeks ago. Not in some sort of distant past where Putin wasn't responsible for murdering thousands of Ukrainian civilians in a medieval-style slaughterfest after having launched an unprovoked war of conquest against a peaceful nation.

Anyone who trusts this man and believes he should be in power is fully deserving of the consequences.
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Why wouldn't he believe that when they were actively undermining him? That's your treason. How many whistle blowers have come forward now? !5, 20 something like that. What consequences? Peace?
 
Did you know Trump was a democrat? Sounds pretty middle of the road to me.

It's true: Donald Trump was a Democrat.

Long before the ultrawealthy real estate magnate became president of the United States after running on the Republican Party ticket, he belonged to the party of former U.S. presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, and Lyndon Johnson. And that led to some conservatives suspecting Trump of acting on behalf of the Democrats, and in particular, the Clintons, to sabotage the GOP.

It turns out you don't have to look far to find evidence that Trump wasn't always a conservative Republican. Trump was registered as a Democrat for more than eight years in the 2000s, according to New York City voter records made public during his 2016 campaign for president.

Trump owned up to his years with the other party and told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in 2004 that he identified with Democrats during that time because they were more adept at handling the economy:

Trump's inconsistency when it comes to party affiliation—he's also been registered with the Independence Party and as an independent—was an issue in the campaign for the Republican presidential nomination. Many in the large field of presidential hopefuls criticized his affiliation with the Democrats, including former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

“He was a Democrat longer than he was a Republican. He's given more money to Democrats than he has to Republicans," Bush said. (Among the politicians Trump has given money to are former Secretary of State and Sen. Hillary Clinton, who was his Democratic opponent in the 2016 presidential campaign.)

www.thoughtco.com

Was Donald Trump Really a Democrat?

Long before the ultrawealthy real-estate magnate Donald Trump won the 2016 election as the Republican nominee, he was a Democrat.
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"The warmongers are trying to drag us into WW3, which can only end in one way: nuclear annihilation and the suffering and death of all our loved ones. Zelensky, Biden, NATO, congressional and media neocons are insane. And we are insane if we passively allow them to lead us into this holocaust like sheep to the slaughter. We find hope in the fact that the vast majority of Americans are sane, but sanity is not enough. We also need courage. The courage to stand up to the powerful warmongers, and in unison declare: “No! we will not allow you to destroy our families, communities, environment, country, and world!”

I would vote for her in a hot minute! (y)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630524043345674242
 
william said:
Elon Musk
@elonmusk

The diplomats want war and the warriors want peace
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Elon a miserable clown who knows nothing of what he speaks. Stick to your science which you clearly do best with and stop acting like you know anything about geopolitics little man child. Go smoke some reefer like the teenage dirt bag you are on the inside and come up with your next big hair brained scheme, then leave the world theater/geopolitics to big boys who know what their doing & done their whole lives.
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william said:
I believe he was quoting from actual warriors. See above ^. Let's hope they know what they're doing because we're all in deep dodo if they don't. ;)
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Was more so comment on his entirely self proclaimed false understanding or "knowledge" he has in geopolitics that he seemingly thinks he knows best. Bet he didn't even know what geopolitics was until he realized it got him views, likes, and attention due to the highly contentious landscape Russia/Ukraine war has put everyone in. You think he really gives a shit or truly understands? No. Just a ploy for attention as Ukraine/Russia war is a good way to become a lighting rod of attention for better or worse.
 
DarkNoon said:
Was more so comment on his entirely self proclaimed false understanding or "knowledge" he has in geopolitics that he seemingly thinks he knows best. Bet he didn't even know what geopolitics was until he realized it got him views, likes, and attention due to the highly contentious landscape Russia/Ukraine war has put everyone in. You think he really gives a shit or truly understands? No. Just a ploy for attention as Ukraine/Russia war is a good way to become a lighting rod for better or worse.
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I think he cares about America and running successful businesses.
 
DarkNoon said:
Now that is truly funny, since when has corporate America given even the slightest 'fuck' to/about the American people?

The second part is true though. Money is king. Naturally he wants to be successful which = $$$.
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He didn’t say the American people. He said
william said:
he cares about America and running successful businesses.
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They want America to continue to exist and prosper so as to have a safe haven.
As far as the actual people go, yeah you are spot on: they don’t give the “slightest 'fuck' to/about the American people”
So you are both right. OK, good game.
 
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Torcher said:
He didn’t say the American people. He said

They want America to continue to exist and prosper so as to have a safe haven.
As far as the actual people go, yeah you are spot on: they
Given the “slightest 'fuck' to/about the American people”
So you are both right. OK, good game.
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"So you are both right. OK, good game" :ROFLMAO: (y)
 
william said:
"The warmongers are trying to drag us into WW3, which can only end in one way: nuclear annihilation and the suffering and death of all our loved ones. Zelensky, Biden, NATO, congressional and media neocons are insane. And we are insane if we passively allow them to lead us into this holocaust like sheep to the slaughter. We find hope in the fact that the vast majority of Americans are sane, but sanity is not enough. We also need courage. The courage to stand up to the powerful warmongers, and in unison declare: “No! we will not allow you to destroy our families, communities, environment, country, and world!”

I would vote for her in a hot minute! (y)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1630524043345674242
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I like Tulsi and respect her for taking a stand and on many issues I agree with her.
I think she is wrong on this in part though.

Do I believe if We had been clearer and unequivocal “not ambiguous” regarding any Russian intervention into Ukraine. There likely would not have been an invasion, yes.
I believe we would have had a chance at it if Trump had won.
But that’s all water under the bridge now we can’t go back.

Does that mean that now we can ignore it and not help Ukraine as much as we can, no.
Two reasons,
This is a critical existential issue to many of our eastern European Allies whom we have treaties with. Russia has a proven history of violent overthrow of old Warsaw pac nations and our Allie’s have legitimate fears over it. So doing nothing now would abandoning many of our Allie’s with whom we have commitments to.
This would have a massively destabilizing effect on NATO and only cause worse problems down the road.

Second anti-interventionism or isolationism is naive and not really part of what Trump and what ever the maga movement is called today.
Trump was and is a Teddy Roosevelt’s Republican. You remember let’s do business but carry a big stick and not be unwilling to use it.

Too many trump supporters are filtering the invasion of Ukraine thru the lost election.
I’ve said it before if Russia wants Putin fine as long as it stays in Russia. But viewing Putin and the Russian cause solely as some some moral or spiritual battle against the WEF or Davos.
Well brother you can count me out

We’re stuck with the damn war and handing it all over to Putin by withdrawing would be a stain not soon washed off. And likely give the election to any democrat who runs in 2024.
 
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