Canada & US Trade Tentions

[Torch]

Trump Slaps 50% Tariffs on Canada ​

President Donald Trump on Monday imposed 50% tariffs on most Canadian goods, declaring that Canada has unfairly discriminated against American autos, alcohol, and dairy products.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-canada-tariffs/2026/07/20/id/1263482/

 

[GBS61]

Trump Slaps 50% Tariffs on Canada ​

President Donald Trump on Monday imposed 50% tariffs on most Canadian goods, declaring that Canada has unfairly discriminated against American autos, alcohol, and dairy products.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-canada-tariffs/2026/07/20/id/1263482/

Most Canadians consider Trump a clown, and I think they're 100% right. Thanks, Trump, for making us laugh!

When Trump says something, I pretend I'm walking into a psychiatric hospital (a madhouse), I ignore their screams, because I know they're all crazy.

 

[Onoya]

I want to thanks Trump, because now, Canadian will buy even more EU products XD (since first Trump trade war, there is a Canadian restaurant buying wine from my village while they were buying from california before )

 

[Dr Arthur]

I want to thanks Trump, because now, Canadian will buy even more EU products XD (since first Trump trade war, there is a Canadian restaurant buying wine from my village while they were buying from california before )

Probably a better quality product anyway. Healthier agricultural practices outside the USA

 

[Publius]

Yet the EU still applies more pesticides per hectare than the US. Even the dreaded glyphosate is allowed.

 

[GBS61]

Trump Slaps 50% Tariffs on Canada ​

President Donald Trump on Monday imposed 50% tariffs on most Canadian goods, declaring that Canada has unfairly discriminated against American autos, alcohol, and dairy products.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/trump-canada-tariffs/2026/07/20/id/1263482/

Regarding Trump's confrontation with Canada:

The United States is massively dependent on Canada, making economic or strategic separation impossible for the two nations. Despite the protectionist rhetoric emerging in Washington, the facts demonstrate a deep interdependence, particularly in the energy, trade, security, and critical supply chain sectors.

Major Economic and Strategic Interdependence
Canada is not a secondary partner, but a pillar of American stability.

Energy Security: Canada is the United States' largest supplier of oil, ahead of all OPEC countries combined. It supplies American refineries with the heavy crude essential to their operation.

Critical Minerals
To succeed in its technological and military transition, Washington depends on Canadian reserves of essential minerals (lithium, nickel, cobalt), a strategic alternative to China's monopoly.

Bilateral Trade
More than 35 U.S. states count Canada as their top export customer. Millions of jobs in the United States depend directly on access to the Canadian market.

Integrated automotive supply chain
Parts cross the border multiple times before a car is assembled in Michigan or Ontario. Blocking this flow would cripple the American auto industry.

Common defense
Canada co-manages NORAD for aerospace surveillance and protects direct access to the Arctic, an area of increasing tension with Russia and China.

The risks of American isolationism (protectionism) If the United States were to attempt isolation or impose massive tariffs (as during the renegotiations of the USMCA), the financial consequences would be immediate.

Inflationary shock: American consumers would pay more for energy, electricity (as Quebec and Ontario export large quantities of hydroelectricity to the Northeast), and consumer goods.

Logistical Disruption

American factories would lack raw materials and intermediate components.

Loss of Competitiveness: Faced with the Asian or European bloc, the North American economy would lose its collective bargaining power.

The Strategic Framework for Assessing this Relationship

To understand the real dynamics beyond the political rhetoric, the relationship must be analyzed along three axes:

Axis of Assessment
Reality of American Dependence
Risk for the US in Case of Disruption
Energy & Resources
Total (Oil, electricity, uranium, lumber).

Energy crisis and rising construction costs.

National Security
Shared (Intelligence sharing, Arctic surveillance).
Territorial vulnerability to rival superpowers.
Employment & Manufacturing
Systemic (Synchronized supply chains).

Massive factory closures in the American Rust Belt. The discourse claiming that the United States "doesn't need Canada" is generally a matter of domestic political posturing. In fact, the Departments of Defense, Energy and Commerce in Washington constantly reiterate that a strong America requires an inseparable partnership with Canada.

Note: Mike Pence opposes Trump's tariffs.

Reminder: Mike Pence is the man who saved American democracy.

 

[william]

Most Canadians consider Trump a clown, and I think they're 100% right. Thanks, Trump, for making us laugh!

When Trump says something, I pretend I'm walking into a psychiatric hospital (a madhouse), I ignore their screams, because I know they're all crazy.

Albertan here. We are seeking full independence as a republic. We will become your best trading partner, with secure borders that will enhance national security on both sides. Alberta has a unique culture and heritage that must be preserved for our future generations. We look forward to a long and prosperous future relationship with the USA that shares the values of liberty, freedom & prosperity.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091493165849297243

This reflects real separatist momentum in Alberta ahead of the October 19, 2026 non-binding referendum asking if the province should begin the constitutional process for a future binding independence vote, with US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent previously calling Alberta a "natural partner" due to its resources.

 

[JPod]

And they should. Alberta is and has been subsidizing the welfare nanny states that make up the eastern half. Albertans could become so rich over this. After they leave they could then sell the oil to the eastern half at exorbitant prices and with some luck bring down the house of cards.

 

[NuclearID]

Video:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091216789745143956

 

[william]

The Canadian Federal Government decided to FLUSH OUT their local talent and just announced New EXPRESSED ENTRY for immigrant categories of "skilled military recruits" into the Canadian Armed Forces. You read that right… the want foreign nationals (Chinese soldiers) to join their ranks.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091685229819814034

• The X post reacts to Canada's February 2026 Express Entry expansion adding a "skilled military recruits" category, announced by Immigration Minister Lena Metlege Diab, to fast-track permanent residency for foreign military personnel with Canadian Armed Forces job offers.
• Eligible candidates must have 10+ years in a recognized foreign military and match specific NOC codes for commissioned officers, specialized members, or operations roles, with full security and military vetting required; the first draw in July 2026 issued only 4 invitations.
• The attached video shows Diab speaking at the Canadian Club of Toronto, stating the category supports strengthening armed forces to "defend our sovereignty and keep Canadians safe," while the post warns of risks from non-Canadian soldiers, including potential threats to US national security.

 

[william]

Nine thoughts on Alberta after the trade rupture:

1 - What has occurred is an existential threat to Alberta and Canada.

2 - Far too many Canadians still seem convinced that everything will somehow return to normal. They do not understand what has changed.

3 - Canada is in the process of failing. We are in FAFO territory.

4 - #AlbertaIndependence is no longer an abstract constitutional argument. It is becoming a question of economic survival and control over our own future.

5 - The federal government’s actions are unconscionable. If this confrontation continues escalating, the economic and human consequences could be enormous.

6 - Canadians, especially working-class Canadians, are going to bear the consequences through jobs, prices, investment and purchasing power while much of the Laurentian political and institutional elite remains insulated from the damage.

7 - Canada now faces a fundamental question about what the country is actually for. If a federation cannot protect the economic interests of its constituent regions, cannot maintain stable access to its overwhelmingly largest market, and cannot reconcile profoundly different regional interests, then the legitimacy of the arrangement deserves serious examination.

8 - Alberta must immediately start acting like a jurisdiction responsible for its own survival. Open direct channels with American governors, legislators, industry and the administration. Use every lawful power Alberta possesses to defend Alberta’s interests.The old system is failing. Alberta cannot simply wait for Ottawa to save us. It’s sink or swim.

9 - Albertans need to prepare for #AlbertaIndependence.Not someday. Now.We need to build the institutions, relationships, infrastructure, fiscal strength and public support required for Alberta to determine its own future.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091548518486032512

 

[william]

Video:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091216789745143956

Rebuttal

CANADA’S INDUSTRIAL COLLAPSE under Mark J Carney

Honda Alliston, ON → Cancelled— $15 Billion

Stellantis Brampton, ON → Moved to Illinois — $500 Million in aid pocketed

Stellantis Windsor Battery Plant → Sold stake for — $100

GM CAMI Ingersoll, ON → PERMANENTLY CLOSED — $2 Billion retool gone

GM Oshawa, ON → Production moved to Indiana — $280 Million lost

Ford Oakville, ON → EV production moved to USA — $2.3 Billion gone

Northvolt Quebec → BANKRUPT — $7 Billion evaporated

Invista Kingston, ON → Moving to Texas — 500 jobs gone

Umicore Ontario → Shifting to Poland & South Korea — $260 Million gone

TOTAL INVESTMENT LOST: Over $50 Billion

https://twitter.com/x/status/2091662247256871009

The X post compiles recent closures, suspensions, and production shifts in Canada's auto and battery sectors—including Honda's $15B Alliston EV plant pause, Stellantis moving.Jeep output from Brampton to Illinois, GM CAMI closure, and Northvolt Quebec bankruptcy—claiming over $50B in lost investments.Verified events stem from slowing EV demand, Honda's pivot to hybrids, U.S. tariffs under Trump disrupting North American supply chains, and automakers prioritizing U.S. production, with governments having committed but not always disbursed billions in subsidies.

 

[Onoya]

Here is apparently a list of last-minutes changes that the US asked (and caused Canada to leave negociations tables)

I don't have the source, consider it as not-confirmed except for first 2 changes that i saw Carney spoke about it.


Even for those 2 first changes, it was normal that Canada refused...

 

[GBS61]

MAGA Propaganda:
Influence Campaigns: Cybersecurity experts and the organization DisinfoWatch have warned Canadians about overt foreign influence campaigns (particularly through the American MAGA movement) that seek to exacerbate internal divisions in Canada at a time when Canada-US trade negotiations are difficult.

Alberta Independence Referendum Is A Dangerous Gamble In The Trump Era

While Alberta's grievances may be legitimate, pursuing separation now could weaken Canada's ongoing trade dispute potentially benefiting US interests in absorbing Canada.

www.forbes.com

 

[GBS61]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/livestory/c...xt=Trump also went after,Minister Mark Carney.

Doug Ford's Attacks on Trump: Faced with this situation, Doug Ford dramatically hardened his stance towards Donald Trump.

Blunt Statements: At a press conference in Hamilton, Mr. Ford sent a blunt message to the American president, telling him to "fuck off" / "kiss my ass."

Personal Attacks: He called Trump a "dictator," a "loser," and the "king of bankruptcies."

Threats of Economic Retaliation: The Ontario premier stated that "everything is on the table." He formally threatened to cut off exports of electricity and critical minerals to the United States. He also invoked former President Ronald Reagan, claiming that the latter would "spit up" on Trump upon seeing his protectionist measures.

 

[GBS61]

Carney says Trump’s demands would dismantle Canadian auto industry as Ford warns US could be cut off.

Canadian critical minerals are not mere commercial commodities: they are the cornerstone of U.S. national security and defense industry. The Pentagon relies directly on Canadian mineral resources to manufacture its modern weapons, armored vehicles, and advanced technologies. This is why Ontario Premier Doug Ford has explicitly threatened Washington with cutting off the electricity supply of these strategic resources if the trade war escalates.

 

[Onoya]

Carney doesn't exclude the option to stop delivering electricity and critical minerals to the US

Guerre commerciale | Carney n’exclut pas de couper l’électricité et les minéraux critiques

« Rien n’est exclu, mais ce n’est pas pour le moment. » L’option récemment écartée par Mark Carney de couper l’électricité et les minéraux critiques aux Américains est maintenant sur la table. Le premier ministre canadien garde toutes les cartes en main pour répliquer à l’escalade américaine...

www.lapresse.ca

 

[Publius]

No one should be surprised at any of this in the longer span of time. Ill admit it wasn’t on my dance card but i am wholly unsurprised by this tension.
Make no mistake we are in a global, mostly non-kinetic war for influence. You can fault the Americans I can fault the Europeans and transnational globalist. Who are both fighting for economic, trade, and migratory control. In short power.
Im a realist i see it for exactly what it is. Men and nations working in their own self interests. I at least admit it for what it is instead of cloaking it in some ménage of world order and international law, Norms or whatever.
The the post WW2 peace of subdued tranquility has lasted about as long as most international episodes.

 

[william]

Is Carny and Ford working for the best interests of canada or the eu globalists? Why does Alberta even want to succeed?

 

[william]

Carney says Trump’s demands would dismantle Canadian auto industry as Ford warns US could be cut off.

Canadian critical minerals are not mere commercial commodities: they are the cornerstone of U.S. national security and defense industry. The Pentagon relies directly on Canadian mineral resources to manufacture its modern weapons, armored vehicles, and advanced technologies. This is why Ontario Premier Doug Ford has explicitly threatened Washington with cutting off the electricity supply of these strategic resources if the trade war escalates.

Then don't be surprised if you see the BIG RED ONE knocking on your door. This is how wars start.