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Kalingrad-Lithuania | 2022

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Socom7 said:
I'd be more concerned by the "every square meter" rhetoric that's already reemerged in two places today - first from Ned Price (though that was in response to a question), and now from Scholz himself, in an umprompted manner, which did cause me to raise an eyebrow slightly.
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How so?
It was also interesting how Ukraine’s fight was delicately intertwined in defending every sq meter of nato territory.
 
Obreid said:
How so?
It was also interesting how Ukraine’s fight was delicately intertwined in defending every sq meter of nato territory.
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Last time I heard this phrase was from Biden, immediately after the war began. They didn't particularly feel the need to repeat it until now. Which shows they're concerned.

Btw., French airborne exercise reported in Estonia. Token, but unscheduled. 100 paratroopers said to be involved.
 
dave II judgement day said:
A link to head of state duma committee on international affairs discussion on countermeasures- note that they are saying they likely will hold off on barring Lithuanian transit through Russia for later, very weak response compared to the talk, especially since the Lithuanians just went out and said that they dont mind being cut off from the electricity ring, maybe there are other measures of more serious nature from "other departments" but here this is not of much impact , feel silly for being so worked up, unless more measures are on the way and the russians are insane, we will see. if it is just this though then not much to worry over. https://www-interfax-ru.translate.g...l=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
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Somehow missed that one. Yeah, that's some serious weaksauce. Alikhanov (Kaliningrad governor) has also been trying to tone it down, but note that it's not his call, and he's also out of favor with the Kremlin (Putin recently gave him the Naryshkin treatment, in an online format).

In any case, I'd say it's too early to count these particular chickens.
 
DucknCover said:
But the goal of the enemy is to make you think that nothing will happpen.
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Not with Russia. Russia is simply crying like a baby over a war THEY started & souly responsible for. So they throw threats against the wall to see what sticks to gets attention or scare the West to stop meddling, with absolutely ZERO intentions of carry through with any of their threats.

They can barely keep somewhat organized, nor form decent fronts, or make any major wins in Ukraine for months. What makes them think they can take on NATO even just 1 member. 😂😂😂 Its all a ploy and wouldn't read into it.
 
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DarkNoon said:
Not with Russia. Russia is simply crying like a baby over a war THEY started & souly responsible for. So they throw threats against the wall to see what sticks to gets attention or scare the West to stop meddling, with absolutely ZERO intentions of carry through with any of their threats.

They can barely keep somewhat organized, nor form decent fronts, or make any major wins in Ukraine for months. What makes them think they can take on NATO even just 1 member. 😂😂😂 Its all a ploy and wouldn't read into it.
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Fault number 1 underestimate his opponent. A beginner mistake. Sad for a staff member.
 
Silent said:
Fault number 1 underestimate his opponent. A beginner mistake. Sad for a staff member.
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We took Russia's threats very seriously at the beginning of the war and none of them materialized. So far, Russia has done everything they promised they wouldn't do, and done nothing of what they've threatened to do. Four months in, and this has become a pattern.

Does that mean we believe Russia will *never* carry out one of its threats? Of course not. But it's looking unlikely for the near future.

Please do not disparage staff members. This is not a full-time gig for anyone, and many of them spend time here when they could be spending it with their families. Or fishing.

If you have a complaint about a specific staff member, please address it directly with the Director, myself, or both, by private message, not in public.

Thank you.
 
Socom7 said:
I've long been of the opinion that cyberattacks are pinprick warfare. I've yet to see anything that would change my mind in this respect.
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Don't forget, Nato authorized the use of Article 5 in the event of a cyber attack on a member state's critical infrastructure. This could be the prelude to a cyber war.
[EDIT]: I should further say that the response to a cyber attack on NATO is not clearly outlined in Article 5. I am pulling this analysis from the comments provided to us by NATO officials such as Jen Stoltenberg, in no way do I think that a cyberattack would lead to active physical conflict between Russia and NATO.
 
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Under current U.S. nuclear doctrine, developed during the Trump administration, the president would be given the military option to launch nuclear weapons at Russia, China or North Korea if that country was determined to be behind such an attack.
But our analysis suggests that using nuclear weapons in response to biological or cyberattacks would be illegal under international law in virtually all circumstances. Threatening an illegal nuclear response weakens deterrence because the threat lacks inherent credibility. Perversely, this policy could also wind up committing a president to a nuclear attack if deterrence fails. While the American public would indeed be likely to want vengeance after a destructive enemy assault, the law of armed conflict requires that some military options be taken off the table. Nuclear retaliation for “significant non-nuclear strategic attacks” is one of them.
The Biden administration is now conducting its own review of the U.S. nuclear posture. The 2018 Trump change is an urgent candidate for reevaluation, but people have generally ignored it up to now.
 
if you are escalating as a result of a cyberattack you kind of have to want to escalate, lithuania has been subject to many from russia, including recently, same as the other baltic states. since the war started the cyberwar has touched deep into both east and west and besides statements like "if you keep that up it may mean trouble down the line maybe" there hasnt been much escalation as a result. let us not forget the numerous times the head of cybercommand and ned prince have admitted to computer operations directly against the russian federation, "offensive" cyber ops, and do not forget how little has come of that escalation wise
 
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