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May-2026 | Hantavirus (Andes Variant) Outbreak

i also have a bad feeling about it... In France, we have 1 infected and several person in confinement (all from that cruise ship), the media are speaking about it exactly like in the beginning of the covid...

Also, the persons in confinement have been in contact with infected persons, and they are in confinement at their home... i do feel that it would be better to confine them into hospital until it's sure that they aren't infected
The US isn't giving it's citizens that freedom. US citizens onboard that cruise ship will skip go and go directly to a quarantine facility in Nebraska transported by military busses/transport if I remember right. Good call on US government part not to trust them to self isolate. This isn't something imo to gamble with.

To bad other countries are not forcing involuntary quarantine measures/putting them in facilities equipped to isolate/prevent/treat such disease on their own citizens who were also exposed.

Though some citizens nations do not have proper facilities. So from my understanding citizens of nations whom nation cannot properly quarantine such a threat will stay in whatever countries that can until deemed not infected then will be repatriated afterwards...
 
The US isn't giving it's citizens that freedom. US citizens onboard that cruise ship will skip go and go directly to a quarantine facility in Nebraska transported by military busses/transport if I remember right. Good call on US government part not to trust them to self isolate. This isn't something imo to gamble with.

To bad other countries are not forcing involuntary quarantine measures/putting them in facilities equipped to isolate/prevent/treat such disease on their own citizens who were also exposed.

Though some citizens nations do not have proper facilities. So from my understanding citizens of nations whom nation cannot properly quarantine such a threat will stay in whatever countries that can until deemed not infected then will be repatriated afterwards.
Australians infected are going directly to quarantine facility on arrival for 45 days. Longer than anyone else.
 
What is the treatment for this virus? When I see caregivers in full biohazard gear it makes me nervous.
 
Like covid, no direct treatment, just treat the symptoms
Yea but this virus is much, much more lethal than COVID ever could of hoped to become. Our only hope is that it's human to human transmission rate is low enough we can backtrace virus faster than the infection rate and stop it before the transmission rate outpaces backtracking of infected and whom they came in contact with.
 
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ECDC’s wording is important: it does not say asymptomatic people are clearly driving spread. It says current limited evidence does not support a major role for asymptomatic transmission, BUT because infectivity appears highest around the first day of symptom onset, ECDC says there is a “high likelihood” of some infectiousness one to two days before symptoms begin.

That is a extremely dangerous gray zone. We all better hope their dead wrong.
 
Its only really concerning if pre symptomatic spread is likely. Maybe its possible but with such low possibility it doesn't matter or maybe it can't at all.

Regardless, it I don't believe this outbreak is of a novel strain. I'm not worried although it does reinforce my existing opinion that I personally will never take a cruise.
 
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Yea but this virus is much, much more lethal than COVID ever could of hoped to become. Our only hope is that it's human to human transmission rate is low enough we can backtrace virus faster than the infection rate and stop it before the transmission rate outpaces backtracking of infected and whom they came in contact with.
Potentially dozens or hundreds of infected people traveled to other countries during cruise and took flights, for days before any measures or even a quarantine was put into effect. To say the virus isn't out there would be naive at this point just based off this. Not even talking about the ECDC "high likelihood" of infectiousness one to two days before symptoms begin or the already mixed response globally on how to handle it.

Not saying panic. But I'm not buying anything the media or government is saying. What we know already tells me it's out there. Now we just in the wait and see phase since it has such a long incubation period.
 
So basically they're they are confident there is some transmissibility before symptoms but that still doesn't mean its likely to have an infection due to exposure to a pre symptomatic person just that they believe it can happen under the right circumstances. So it's still not 100% sure that pre symptomatic spread is possible (because high likelihood is not certainty).
 
So basically they're they are confident there is some transmissibility before symptoms but that still doesn't mean its likely to have an infection due to exposure to a pre symptomatic person just that they believe it can happen under the right circumstances. So it's still not 100% sure that pre symptomatic spread is possible (because high likelihood is not certainty).
We're talking about two different questions here: 1) is pre symptomatic spread possible (yes or no) and 2) if yes how likely is it to occur?
 
So basically they're they are confident there is some transmissibility before symptoms but that still doesn't mean its likely to have an infection due to exposure to a pre symptomatic person just that they believe it can happen under the right circumstances. So it's still not 100% sure that pre symptomatic spread is possible (because high likelihood is not certainty).
Again the facts already point to infectivity appears highest around the first day of symptom onset.

Which at first appears no more then a flu or common cold. So... I stand by everything I've said.

I'm not panicking nor saying anyone should. But not going to say it's not happening either or it's not likely. That's not the current read if we being honest with ourselves and not lying to make ourselves feel better.

If people can't handle the news or analysis behind current news, then they shouldn't read the news. Not here to hold people's hands or make people feel better. If you want fluff, watch FOX, CNN, BCC, ABC or any of the alphabet news.

That wasn't directed at you @JPod But more your angle trying to hold others/viewers hands here.
 
Not to mention some of the countries these potentially infected people visited don't even have remotely the facilities, capability, or the capacity to track down or even properly quarantine people. So. Again. Circling back to, not a good look so far. On top of the world's mixed so/so response so far regarding these countries of interest I mentioned above.

If I had to label the current situation without watering it down... 👉This is a serious high consequence export event with probable hidden incubating exposures, not yet evidence of uncontrolled community transmission.
 
The US isn't giving it's citizens that freedom. US citizens onboard that cruise ship will skip go and go directly to a quarantine facility in Nebraska transported by military busses/transport if I remember right. Good call on US government part not to trust them to self isolate. This isn't something imo to gamble with.

To bad other countries are not forcing involuntary quarantine measures/putting them in facilities equipped to isolate/prevent/treat such disease on their own citizens who were also exposed.

Though some citizens nations do not have proper facilities. So from my understanding citizens of nations whom nation cannot properly quarantine such a threat will stay in whatever countries that can until deemed not infected then will be repatriated afterwards...
US citizens are not being HELD at the facility in Nebraska -- just examined/tested. After that they are free to return to their homes for self-imposed isolation and monitoring. Presumably via commercial airlines?
 
US citizens are not being HELD at the facility in Nebraska -- just examined/tested. After that they are free to return to their homes for self-imposed isolation and monitoring. Presumably via commercial airlines?
Pretty sure I heard on Fox News that they will be held there for a week or so. But then go home after whatever period of time they said. Pretty sure couple weeks.
 
From WOWT (NBC Affiliate in Omaha)
"In the 9 a.m. news conference, officials clarified that 18 people were brought to Omaha. One tested positive but was not showing symptoms. 15 are in quarantine at Nebraska Medicine and are not showing any symptoms and have not tested positive.

The one American who tested positive but doesn’t have symptoms is expected go straight to the Nebraska Biocontainment Unit, which is separate from the quarantine unit, where the rest of the exposed passengers will be treated as needed.

Two other people from the ship, a couple, were sent to Emory University in Atlanta and are experiencing mild symptoms but have not tested positive, officials say.

The patients were brought to Atlanta as to not overwhelm the system in Omaha. Those that don’t become symptomatic will eventually be permitted to self-quarantine."

 
It would be interesting to know all the countries of passengers that were not quarantined and left the ship and what means of transportation taken. Just to see where things might start popping. To previous points, its already out there! When are they going tow ship out to sea and sink it? The Movie Contagion comes to mind, especially in France with the open air Les Toilettes. Take a squat, get an infection.
 
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