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Nationwide Railroad Strike Averted

DarkNoon said:
This was the only compromise for law in a changing environment, people, society, way of living and technology. 💁‍♂️
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If we can "compromise," then the Constitution means nothing. In the words of Abraham Lincoln, let's tear it up.

If we want to change the Constitution, then change the Constitution. If you don't have the votes to do it, then you can't do it. There's a reason the Founding Fathers put that mechanism in place.
 
The govt can nationalize the railroads and/or impose a contract, declare a strike illegal, etc. But there is very little that can realistically be done to stop a wildcat strike.
 
Not much Biden or Congress can do to stop a wildcat strike, though. If it comes down to it, and people walk off the job en masse what are they going to do? They can't train replacements overnight and they can't arrest them if they quit because then they aren't technically railroad workers anymore.
 
Librarylady said:
Not much Biden or Congress can do to stop a wildcat strike, though. If it comes down to it, and people walk off the job en masse what are they going to do?
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Why would they walk off? The bill is giving them what they want. So if they got what they want why would they walk off?

This bill isn't nationalizing the industry. Its giving them what they want so they don't walk off.
 
DarkNoon said:
Forcing? Their getting what they want and the companies are forced to give into the demand mostly. Not the workers. Dramatic messaging.
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Could it have been the power of the 8 unions who agreed to the original settlement, using their political clout to get the government to force the remaining 4 unions to go along?
Just a thought.
 
Irag8er said:
Could it have been the power of the 8 unions who agreed to the original settlement, using their political clout to get the government to force the remaining 4 unions to go along?
Just a thought.
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Maybe. Union bargaining is always shady. Now the feds stepping in. I'm sure backroom deals and channels are full of slime.

But in the end the workers got overwhelmingly mostly what they wanted while the companies where forced by the feds to comply with the deal.

So again All's Well That Ends Well. For now...
 
DarkNoon said:
The federal government has a right to nationalize any industry in the name of national security or protecting American interests like you know preventing the entire economy from going down the pooper or war.

BUT it cannot be permanent. From my understanding. Its only used as a "emergency break" for situation that could spiral and harm Americas on a sever or large scale that the private market simply can't or won't fix/help.
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While I agree with you in times of war. There is no constitutional means to nationalize anything.
Lots of executive orders but their is no constitutional means to do this.
I know you will disagree and might even waste a emoji on it.

Maybe if we relied less on EO’s and omnibus budget bills and actually managed our government we would avoid some of these problems.
 
DEFCON Warning System said:
If we can "compromise," then the Constitution means nothing. In the words of Abraham Lincoln, let's tear it up.

If we want to change the Constitution, then change the Constitution. If you don't have the votes to do it, then you can't do it. There's a reason the Founding Fathers put that mechanism in place.
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Oh to be sure the constitution means nothing to many.
 
Seriously said:
Lots of executive orders but their is no constitutional means to do this.
I know you will disagree and might even waste a emoji on it.
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Oh no I agree its likly not constitutional. But in today's world all that matter is precedence & the Judicial System AKA Judges.

Since there is a rather lengthy history of this and many offcial precedences of Federal Government doing this in time of sever crisis that threaten the way of life of most Americans. Usually in war but to prevent the total meltdown of the economy too.

If it goes to the judicial system as these matters always do constitution gets a back seat while precedent rules the cases.
 
Train said:
Are they?
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Mostly. They wanted 12 days sick leave they got 7. You know compromise. But one the Gov is forcing the railroad companies to do and follow. Which was the problem. The companies didn't want to give them a single inch. But now fed gov is forcing their hand and ensuring they follow through with the deal. A deal where the workers overwhelmingly get what they want.
 
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