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Oh Canada?
- Thread starter Torch
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Most Canadians consider Trump a clown, and I think they're 100% right. Thanks, Trump, for making us laugh!Trump
Slaps 50% Tariffs on Canada
President Donald Trump on Monday imposed 50% tariffs on most Canadian goods, declaring that Canada has unfairly discriminated against American autos, alcohol, and dairy products.
When Trump says something, I pretend I'm walking into a psychiatric hospital (a madhouse), I ignore their screams, because I know they're all crazy.
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I want to thanks Trump, because now, Canadian will buy even more EU products XD (since first Trump trade war, there is a Canadian restaurant buying wine from my village while they were buying from california before 
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Probably a better quality product anyway. Healthier agricultural practices outside the USAI want to thanks Trump, because now, Canadian will buy even more EU products XD (since first Trump trade war, there is a Canadian restaurant buying wine from my village while they were buying from california before
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Yet the EU still applies more pesticides per hectare than the US. Even the dreaded glyphosate is allowed.
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Regarding Trump's confrontation with Canada:Trump
President Donald Trump on Monday imposed 50% tariffs on most Canadian goods, declaring that Canada has unfairly discriminated against American autos, alcohol, and dairy products.
The United States is massively dependent on Canada, making economic or strategic separation impossible for the two nations. Despite the protectionist rhetoric emerging in Washington, the facts demonstrate a deep interdependence, particularly in the energy, trade, security, and critical supply chain sectors.
Major Economic and Strategic Interdependence
Canada is not a secondary partner, but a pillar of American stability.
Energy Security: Canada is the United States' largest supplier of oil, ahead of all OPEC countries combined. It supplies American refineries with the heavy crude essential to their operation.
Critical Minerals
To succeed in its technological and military transition, Washington depends on Canadian reserves of essential minerals (lithium, nickel, cobalt), a strategic alternative to China's monopoly.
Bilateral Trade
More than 35 U.S. states count Canada as their top export customer. Millions of jobs in the United States depend directly on access to the Canadian market.
Integrated automotive supply chain
Parts cross the border multiple times before a car is assembled in Michigan or Ontario. Blocking this flow would cripple the American auto industry.
Common defense
Canada co-manages NORAD for aerospace surveillance and protects direct access to the Arctic, an area of increasing tension with Russia and China.
The risks of American isolationism (protectionism) If the United States were to attempt isolation or impose massive tariffs (as during the renegotiations of the USMCA), the financial consequences would be immediate.
Inflationary shock: American consumers would pay more for energy, electricity (as Quebec and Ontario export large quantities of hydroelectricity to the Northeast), and consumer goods.
Logistical Disruption
American factories would lack raw materials and intermediate components.
Loss of Competitiveness: Faced with the Asian or European bloc, the North American economy would lose its collective bargaining power.
The Strategic Framework for Assessing this Relationship
To understand the real dynamics beyond the political rhetoric, the relationship must be analyzed along three axes:
Axis of Assessment
Reality of American Dependence
Risk for the US in Case of Disruption
Energy & Resources
Total (Oil, electricity, uranium, lumber).
Energy crisis and rising construction costs.
National Security
Shared (Intelligence sharing, Arctic surveillance).
Territorial vulnerability to rival superpowers.
Employment & Manufacturing
Systemic (Synchronized supply chains).
Massive factory closures in the American Rust Belt. The discourse claiming that the United States "doesn't need Canada" is generally a matter of domestic political posturing. In fact, the Departments of Defense, Energy and Commerce in Washington constantly reiterate that a strong America requires an inseparable partnership with Canada.
Note: Mike Pence opposes Trump's tariffs.
Reminder: Mike Pence is the man who saved American democracy.
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Albertan here. We are seeking full independence as a republic. We will become your best trading partner, with secure borders that will enhance national security on both sides. Alberta has a unique culture and heritage that must be preserved for our future generations. We look forward to a long and prosperous future relationship with the USA that shares the values of liberty, freedom & prosperity.
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And they should. Alberta is and has been subsidizing the welfare nanny states that make up the eastern half. Albertans could become so rich over this. After they leave they could then sell the oil to the eastern half at exorbitant prices and with some luck bring down the house of cards.
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