Report: U.S. Pacific Command chief tells troops to be ready to 'fight tonight'

[DirtyDevil69]

I think this is simply him saying that they should be ready to fight tonight as in right now , not having to take any time to attack or mount a counter attack if or when North Korea does something

Yep.

 

[Kilroy]

Doesn't this seem a bit rogue though? If my CO is telling me to buckle up then either 1.) it's part of an established itinerary known to the public or 2.) the g public hasn't even caught a whiff yet...

not trying to bang pots and pans, just saying, this is a bit curious

 

[Navarro]

According to wikipedia, the motto of the 2ID is "Second to None." Either way, you can bet everyone is going to point at this and say see, America wants war.

Units may have multiple mottos, especially where subunits are involved.

"As part of the preparation to be ready to 'Fight Tonight' — the motto of the 2nd Infantry Division in Korea — the brigade is beginning to use rotational units."
http://ncojournal.dodlive.mil/tag/fight-tonight/

"This is probably, for the 2nd Infantry Division, the largest transformation we've ever had. All of those [changes] by themselves, overlaid by our regular 'fight tonight' mission to be ready to deter aggression from North Korea and to integrate and conduct combined training with our ROK partners."
https://www.armytimes.com/story/military/2015/01/14/south-korean-troops-form-combined-division-with-us-army-2nd-infantry-korea-combined-division/21748841/

"The 2D Infantry Division/ROK-US Combined Division takes great pride in supporting the strongest Alliance in the world. Our Soldiers are constantly training to be ready to 'Fight Tonight.'"
http://www.2id.korea.army.mil/msc-tracker.asp

"'FIGHT TONIGHT' - US ARMY 2nd INFANTRY DIVISION IN SOUTH KOREA"
http://www.defencereviewasia.com/articles/194/fight-tonight-us-army-2nd-infantry-division-in-south-korea

"Soldiers and KATUSAs of the brigade experienced firsthand the reason to be ready to #FightTonight and received a history lesson last week at the Nakdong River reenactment."
https://www.facebook.com/2IDSustainmentBrigade/posts/10157503642970261

 

[F o 1966]

Doesn't this seem a bit rogue though? If my CO is telling me to buckle up then either 1.) it's part of an established itinerary known to the public or 2.) the g public hasn't even caught a whiff yet...

not trying to bang pots and pans, just saying, this is a bit curious

Not really rogue , there is nothing wrong with telling your troops to be ready to fight at the drop of a hat .
All units forward deployed as these are , are supposed to be ready to go at all times .
But reality is most are not as ready as they might should be .
He is saying make sure your ready.
I am not reading this as North Korea is going to attack tonight ,just be ready if they do .

 

[hrng]

Ah! Now this may be something...

https://twitter.com/YonhapNews/status/784573079158657024

Interesting...

"The imperialist U.S. flew the B-1B nuclear strategic bomber from the Andersen Air Force Base in Guam to skies near the Korean Peninsula on Friday morning, carrying out military threats and menace," the Korean-language propaganda radio station Pyongyang Broadcasting said.

Friday morning Korea time was at the height of the exercises, not sure whether this would have been part of it or unrelated.

In response to the report, however, a South Korean official said the claimed dispatch of the Lancer has not been verified.

 

[Worldwatcher]

Lancers are no longer nuclear capable.

 

[krzepice1976]

Probably mr kim will lauch his new toys. Next nuclear test by north korea.

 

[RiffRaff]

Lancers are no longer nuclear capable.

Um, say what? Source???

 

[Worldwatcher]

Lancers are no longer nuclear capable.

Um, say what? Source???

In the early 1990s, following the Gulf War and concurrent with the disestablishment of SAC and its reassignment to the newly formed Air Combat Command (ACC), the B-1B was converted to conventional bombing use.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_B-1_Lancer

 

[matty1053]

I would hope our marines in USPC would be ready to fight in a moments notice.

 

[RiffRaff]

Lancers are no longer nuclear capable.

Um, say what? Source???

In the early 1990s, following the Gulf War and concurrent with the disestablishment of SAC and its reassignment to the newly formed Air Combat Command (ACC), the B-1B was converted to conventional bombing use.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_B-1_Lancer

:shock:

Son of a bitch. Then what the #@%* is the big deal about B1-Bs replacing B-52s in Guam and the B1-B flyovers in South Korea?????? That would be a DE-escalation in my mind. Or am I missing something?

And how quickly could they be refitted to their nuclear roles in an emergency?

 

[Worldwatcher]

:shock:

Son of a bitch. Then what the #@%* is the big deal about B1-Bs replacing B-52s in Guam and the B1-B flyovers in South Korea?????? That would be a DE-escalation in my mind. Or am I missing something?

Well it was a 'deescalation' in 1990, because the Cold War was basically over. They can still do a lot of damage conventionally. Nuclear deterrence is still achieved with the submarines, B-52s and B-2s.

And how quickly could they be refitted to their nuclear roles in an emergency?

It would take a LOT for this to happen.
It's 26 years old, so I don't know about the reliability of it.

 

[RiffRaff]

:shock:

Son of a bitch. Then what the #@%* is the big deal about B1-Bs replacing B-52s in Guam and the B1-B flyovers in South Korea?????? That would be a DE-escalation in my mind. Or am I missing something?

Well it was a 'deescalation' in 1990, because the Cold War was basically over. They can still do a lot of damage conventionally. Nuclear deterrence is still achieved with the submarines, B-52s and B-2s.

No, I get that part. I meant North Korea acting all "OMGWTF!!!!1111" when the Lancers did a flyover South Korea. That would be a de-escalation from either the BUFFs or the Spirits, right?

 

[Worldwatcher]

:shock:

Son of a bitch. Then what the #@%* is the big deal about B1-Bs replacing B-52s in Guam and the B1-B flyovers in South Korea?????? That would be a DE-escalation in my mind. Or am I missing something?

Well it was a 'deescalation' in 1990, because the Cold War was basically over. They can still do a lot of damage conventionally. Nuclear deterrence is still achieved with the submarines, B-52s and B-2s.

No, I get that part. I meant North Korea acting all "OMGWTF!!!!1111" when the Lancers did a flyover South Korea. That would be a de-escalation from either the BUFFs or the Spirits, right?

I guess, but lancers are still a big scary plane. Especially for North Korea. It might be a case of what plane is ready to fly, and when. I'm just speculating though.

 

[DecimaMas]

http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20161009000213

Controversy boils over preemptive strike on NK

 

[Steve Tyler]

This maybe why they are using B1s

http://wtkr.com/2016/01/07/air-force-radiation-sniffer-jet-may-be-headed-to-korea/

 

[hrng]

This maybe why they are using B1s

http://wtkr.com/2016/01/07/air-force-radiation-sniffer-jet-may-be-headed-to-korea/

JANUARY 7, 2016

 

[rapidfire25]

Um, say what? Source???

In the early 1990s, following the Gulf War and concurrent with the disestablishment of SAC and its reassignment to the newly formed Air Combat Command (ACC), the B-1B was converted to conventional bombing use.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockwell_B-1_Lancer

:shock:

Son of a bitch. Then what the #@%* is the big deal about B1-Bs replacing B-52s in Guam and the B1-B flyovers in South Korea?????? That would be a DE-escalation in my mind. Or am I missing something?

And how quickly could they be refitted to their nuclear roles in an emergency?

Because they are better at penetrating a zone covered by air defense compared to the slower and older b52, while not incorporating a ton of stealth features the bone of b1 has a reduced radar cross section as well as a formidable electronic counter measure system, which would make it a more effective strike bomber. Also due to close proximity to south Korea the whole dropping nukes on north Korea wouldn't be too popular also the fact that atmospheric conditions would blow fallout north the Chinese would have a fit.so instead of nukes we are using the b1 formidable 70k conventional payload capacity and are using precision guided bunker busters to deal with our targets instead of nukes.

 

[Steve Tyler]

This maybe why they are using B1s

http://wtkr.com/2016/01/07/air-force-radiation-sniffer-jet-may-be-headed-to-korea/

JANUARY 7, 2016

I understand the date of the article. What I was pointing out was the capabilities of the B1. Also they can be used to sniff out radar sites and electronic transmissions/radiation.

 

[steve5304]

This maybe why they are using B1s

http://wtkr.com/2016/01/07/air-force-radiation-sniffer-jet-may-be-headed-to-korea/

JANUARY 7, 2016

I understand the date of the article. What I was pointing out was the capabilities of the B1. Also they can be used to sniff out radar sites and electronic transmissions/radiation.

im pretty sure they cannot. That is a device that radar would pick up.