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Turkey Informally Declares War on Syrian Government, Will "End Rule of Assad"

Navarro

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"Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that the Turkish Army has entered Syria to end the rule of President Bashar Assad ... 'We entered [Syria] to end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad who terrorizes with state terror' ... the Turkish president said"
https://www.rt.com/news/368601-erdogan-syria-oust-assad/
 
Um... How is this going to play out with Russia and Turkey still technically being a NATO state?
 
Navarro said:
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"Recep Tayyip Erdogan has said that the Turkish Army has entered Syria to end the rule of President Bashar Assad ... 'We entered [Syria] to end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad who terrorizes with state terror' ... the Turkish president said"
https://www.rt.com/news/368601-erdogan-syria-oust-assad/
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Turkish military launched its operations in Syria to end the rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said Nov. 29.

“In my estimation, nearly 1 million people have died in Syria. These deaths are still continuing without exception for children, women and men. Where is the United Nations? What is it doing? Is it in Iraq? No. We preached patience but could not endure in the end and had to enter Syria together with the Free Syrian Army [FSA],” Erdoğan said at the first Inter-Parliamentary Jerusalem Platform Symposium in Istanbul.

“Why did we enter? We do not have an eye on Syrian soil. The issue is to provide lands to their real owners. That is to say we are there for the establishment of justice. We entered there to end the rule of the tyrant al-Assad who terrorizes with state terror. [We didn’t enter] for any other reason,” the president said.

On Aug. 24, the Turkish Armed Forces launched an operation in Syria, the Euphrates Shield operation, with FSA fighters to ostensibly clear the country’s southern border of both the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) and the Syrian Kurdish Democratic Union Party (PYD) forces, which Ankara considers as a terrorist group linked to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

Last week, a total of six Turkish troops, of them four in a suspected Syrian government attack, and two in ISIL attacks, were killed in three separate attacks from Nov. 24 to 26.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/turkey-entered-syria-to-end-al-assads-rule-president-erdogan.aspx?PageID=238&NID=106709&NewsCatID=352
 
RiffRaff said:
Um... How is this going to play out with Russia and Turkey still technically being a NATO state?
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The question is a matter of treaty law. As a member of NATO, Turkey enjoys the benefits afforded to it by Article 5, which states in part "an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all."

Technically speaking, the majority of Turkey is positioned on the continent of Asia, not Europe. Only the small region west of the Bosporus is positioned within Europe. As such, only that region is guaranteed by Article 5.
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NATO members won't be obligated to defend Turkey in the event that an attack against it occurs east of the Bosporus. Much less is NATO obligated to respond to Turkey's aid in the event that its forces are attacked in Syria.
 
Turkey is currently playing a game against both sides it seems. What's to stop it from just being kicked out of NATO and being left on its own completely?
 
If Turkey attavk Assad is not protected by US.
Us may face with two options
do not help Turkey
Or sacrfiase baltic States.
Option one is safer for all....
NATO will react only if Russia cross some red line (like attack on us,europe personel).
 
The Kremlin said on Nov. 30 that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan's recent assertion that the Turkish military operation in Syria is aimed at “ending the rule of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad” had come as a surprise to Moscow and that it expected an explanation from Ankara, Reuters reported.

"The announcement really came as news to us," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a conference call. 

"It is a very serious statement and one which differs from previous ones and with our understanding of the situation. We hope that our Turkish partners will provide us with some kind of explanation about this," he said.

Erdoğan's remarks will also be discussed during an upcoming visit by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov to Ankara, Russian Deputy FM Mikhail Bogdanov said on Nov. 30, TASS News Agency reported. 

"That will be a good topic so as to clarify the intentions," Bogdanov said according to TASS. 

Lavrov is traveling to Turkey on Nov. 30 and will hold a bilateral meeting with his Turkish counterpart, Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu, on Dec. 1.


Meanwhile, the head of the Foreign Affairs Committee in the State Duma of Russia Alexei Pushkov said the aim of Ankara’s offensive in Syria was not feasible.

“Erdogan said Turkish troops entered Syria to overthrow Assad. But this goal does not seem feasible. [It’s] very similar to the political rhetoric,” Pushkov tweeted on Nov. 29.

In addition, Viktor Ozerov, chairman of the Federation Council Committee on Defense and Security, also said Erdoğan’s “emotional” remarks were unlikely to affect the current situation in Syria as well as relations between Moscow and Ankara, Ria Novosti reported.

“I think it was more emotional, inward application of the country, which is confirmed by the place where it was made,” Ria Novosti quoted Ozerov as saying, adding that he did not think it “radically affected” the Turkish army’s operations in Syria or Ankara’s relations with Moscow. 
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Connection with two soldiers deployed in Syria as a part of the ongoing Euphrates Shield Operation has been lost, the Turkish Armed Forces announced late on Nov. 29.

The military stated that contact with the soldiers was lost at around 3:30 p.m. 

It also added that search works to find the missing soldiers have been ongoing.

Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım was also informed of the situation by the Chief of General Staff Gen. Hulusi Akar, private broadcaster CNN Türk has reported.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/kremli ... sCatID=353
 
"The Syrian Foreign Ministry called the words of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan plans to overthrow Bashar al-Assad government confirmation from the Turkish aggression and vowed to oppose it ... 'the Syrian leadership, the army and the people will not allow the tyrant Erdogan interfere in the internal affairs of the country' ... urged the international community to exert pressure on the Turkish leader ... Kremlin, waiting for clarifications from the Turkish authorities"
Original: http://www.interfax.ru/world/539315
Translated: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.interfax.ru%2Fworld%2F539315
 
DEFCONWarningSystem said:
RiffRaff said:
Um... How is this going to play out with Russia and Turkey still technically being a NATO state?
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Turkey may be more trouble than it's worth for NATO. Frankly, I am not seeing it's value as a member.
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I for one don't see Turkey remaining a NATO state for much longer, what with their threats against not only Russia, Syria and Iran, but also against the rest of NATO. Erdogan thinks that he has everyone by the balls, but... the reality of the situation is that he's playing a far more dangerous game than anyone else and the only loser in this situation would be Turkey.
 
"The Kremlin has preferred to refrain from comments on whether the Turkish president clarified his own statement on the Syrian President Bashar al-Assad when he spoke to Russian President Vladimir Putin on the phone. 'A broad exhange of opinion took place' ... discussed the pressing issues of Russian-Turkish relations, including the bilateral contacts due to take place at various levels shortly. Putin also expressed condolences over the death of children during fire in a dormitory for girls in the southern Turkish city of Adana."
http://tass.com/politics/915729

It would appear that the Kremlin is avoiding the question.
 
"Moscow is alarmed by concrete military efforts that are being taken in the context of a stated goal to topple the government of Syrian President Bashar Assad ... 'they're streamlining concrete military efforts now for the purpose of a regime change in Damascus' ... 'This implies certain forceful actions and operations that can take place in the current context and the fact is certainly bothering us' ... 'signals of this kind are alarming'"
http://tass.com/politics/915782
 
Three Turkish soldiers were killed on Friday after clashing with Kurdish militants in the southeastern province of Hakkari, military sources said.
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN13R0LW?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Feed%253A+Reuters%252FworldNews+%2528Reuters+World+News%2529
 
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