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Oddly enough I was playing a game on a Russian server today and while I was 100% NOT trolling the Russians all of them in the game (20+) went idle and crashed at the same time. This was about 20 minutes ago and the server is hosted in China. It would appear that they all lost their internet connection simultaneously. Maybe it was just a connection issue or maybe it was the fact I kept telling them Putin is my wife and she makes good bread. They never reconnected.
 
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Posturing likely in response to the vote and annexation.
IF Russia does annex the breakaway republics then look for Ukrainian membership in NATO to quickly follow. As well as western troops and air cap.

Georgia will then be on deck for nato membership for them as well.
They have a brand new deep water port constructed by a US firm. And let’s not forget about a future nato air base for Georgia.

I know this is not directly relevant to Ukraine war right now.
But these are the kind of things strategically that are being planned and considered by leaders behind closed doors.

The Supsa-Baku pipeline traverses through N. Azerbaijan past Tiblisi to Supsa on the Black Sea. The pipeline route thru Azerbaijan into Georgia is part of fighting recently between Azerbaijan and Armenia.
 
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IF Russia does annex the breakaway republics then look for Ukrainian membership in NATO to quickly follow.
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NATO is not going to accept a country that is at war.

I think even Ukraine has given up on that goal.
 
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NATO is not going to accept a country that is at war.

I think even Ukraine has given up on that goal.
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Maybe, who believed a year ago, nato would have poured in the multiple millions of dollars and weapons.? Or be flying round the clock ISR missions to aid Ukraine in targeting command and control post. How many Russian flag officer were potentially killed by direct and acknowledged NATO Signet help?
Public sentiment and anger can dramatically change past policies or norms.

My point was. If the annexation does happen then a serious question has to be confronted. Does nato continue to support Ukraine to recover these regions.
Does nato just tell Russia no your full of it and those regions will never be part of Russian.

Either way, nato is now motivated and mobilized and the game is on.
 
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Yes is the simple answer, those annexations wont be recognized as Russian lands, so Ukraine wont be told to stop. ( As they would if they crossed the recognized borders )
Either someone in the Russian Leadership wants a faster pace, or it is an attempt to see if someone cooks something up the Russian can use or havent thought about so they have more options. ( like in the other bluff instances )

If they declare full mobilisation later today, all neighboring contries have to do at least a partial mobilisation. Its the last big wheel for a contry that prepares for a major war, and takes time to effectively start up ( so we wont see its effect until next year ) Something else I have thought about and not been brought up, is the Alliance Defence system Russia has with its allies. People focus on the nuke use, and full mobilisation, but havent realized that Russia can also claim that they are being attacked so their allies need to come help ( Mainly addressed to China ) What will happen if they dont Fully mobilise but call on China? Will China then send a million "voluntiers"? and alot of other questions will present itself,
 
If referendums on 27th and 28th swing to Russia, then Putin claims areas as Russia. Any further attacks on those areas by Zelinski would equal an attack against Russia. The west better make it clear to him no-one attacks Russia. Otherwise we all know the outcome. Unfortunately I don't trust Zelinski with his new found fame. The west should make it clear to him to back off or no more support. Otherwise Putin may well use a tactical nuke on Kiev. Which is the warning to the west. Then with Ukraine government dead Putin is in and the west cannot afford retaliation. A very rare possibility of the first use of tactical nuke with no equal response. Otherwise ww3 is enevitable.
 
Reference to my above comment interesting to see if China makes a move should Putin nuke Kiev because the west lost control of Zelinski. But that is another thread I'm sure. To early yet but maybe not far away.
 
Ok thanks very much -- I just have finished watching it in total and nothing really new.... what caused me to post here was the date on the video on youtube. I since have not been able to find anything else on any of the majors.

Regards and thanks again.
 
So its old news, (since its ongoing from earlyer partially mobilization ) we have to wait for the next scripted act after the refferendums I guess
Russia-China Knows the weakness of the west its long drawn conflicts - I think they are gonna try to hold what they can hold, and wait for the weapon industry to catch up - It does not matter really ( other then the nationalist in Russia ) if they actually lose all the conquered provinces, if the war continues with no agreements - The big weakness the west is facing is entering Russia to finish the job. ( Nuclear threat )
 
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If referendums on 27th and 28th swing to Russia, then Putin claims areas as Russia. Any further attacks on those areas by Zelinski would equal an attack against Russia. The west better make it clear to him no-one attacks Russia. Otherwise we all know the outcome. Unfortunately I don't trust Zelinski with his new found fame. The west should make it clear to him to back off or no more support. Otherwise Putin may well use a tactical nuke on Kiev. Which is the warning to the west. Then with Ukraine government dead Putin is in and the west cannot afford retaliation. A very rare possibility of the first use of tactical nuke with no equal response. Otherwise ww3 is enevitable.
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Yeah that’s what Putin would like everyone to think but not necessarily real
 
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Yeah that’s what Putin would like everyone to think but not necessarily real
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Actually it is a well known and internationally excepted fact that any attack on Russia results in ww3. But hey call the bluff. Might aswell shit nato hasn't yet? This could have been over by now if no-one believed it. But hey a few lives equal more dollars. 🤫🤔😒🙄😤🤬🤝👍
 
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