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UA-RU | March 24th-26th | DISCUSSIONS

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I don't think Putin accepts this, it is precisely the siege of civilians that increases his chance of taking the city without a fight.
Maybe, he doen't accept this, but your explanation doesn't convince me. FIrst, they are fighting. Second, it is just the presence of civilians that prevents Russians to hit harder. And it is true that, for that reason, Ukranian Army doesn't allow civilians to leave, as it is very well witnessed. So, considered that Russia knows very well that, if I were Russia, I would ask myself: "what it wants, actually, France? Why they want to go here, really?". I would not allow...
 
The ideal was a possible operation in Mariupol to be carried out by neutral countries. And not by 3 NATO members and to make matters worse, one with nuclear weapons.

If Putin wants to escalate the situation, without needing to directly attack the territory of a NATO country, this operation might be perfect for him. He attacks NATO on Ukrainian territory, the situation escalates, but without completely getting out of control.
 
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"In general, the main tasks of the first stage of the operation have been completed," Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy, first deputy chief of Russia's General Staff, said in a Friday briefing. "The combat potential of the armed forces of Ukraine has been significantly reduced, allowing us, I emphasize again, to focus the main efforts on achieving the main goal - the liberation of Donbas."

I consider this to be a positive “shift” in narrative. Hopefully this signals that they are giving up on all of Ukraine and will satisfy themselves with just Donbas. An expensive prize.

If Russia is to settle for what they gained then NATO should send troops, tanks, and equipment to the west of the new Ukraine / Russia border Make a new Iron Curtain. Put them in Russia's face. Russia took their portion of Ukraine so Ukraine should have what is left. Then one of two things: either let Ukraine equip, resupply and regroup their forces and then push back to take what is theirs OR let Ukraine fast track into NATO (I don't think Ukraine wants this last option right now but Putin may lick his wounds and try years down the road for the rest of Ukraine).
 
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Medvedev is reiterating the ‘existential threat’ criterion. I’m still not sure what they’re doing here - scare tactics or a real threat - but they’ve been pushing this line with increasing volume over the last few days.

I’ve really been of the mind that actual use of nuclear weapons has been unlikely, and it’s really just threatening talk to make sure NATO stays out, but I must admit I am feeling uneasy today. Maybe just state of mind l, maybe the desired effect on western populations (part of the information war, in a sense). But maybe not.
 
About the existential threat. Maybe it's better to stop thinking they're referring to Russia. In reality it is an existential threat to Putin and his power that they refer to. If the military or economic result makes it impossible for the Tsar to remain in office, we will use nuclear weapons.
 
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i'm wondering if the russians couldn't use the ukrainians counter-attack to say "it's threatening existence of Russia, so we use WMD"

About the existential threat. Maybe it's better to stop thinking they're referring to Russia. In reality it is an existential threat to Putin and his power that they refer to. If the military or economic result makes it impossible for the Tsar to remain in office, we will use nuclear weapons.
Yes I certainly agree that is a valid interpretation.
 
“It was not going to happen anyway”
Wow.
Atleast this crisis let's us be honest. I mean it's fucked up, but we all knew that Ukraine was never going to get into NATO and now everyone is saying that fact publicly. Despite all that talk about an open door policy, Russia DOES have a veto. It always did.
 
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Atleast this crisis let's us be honest. I mean it's fucked up, but we all knew that Ukraine was never going to get into NATO and now everyone is saying that fact publicly. Despite all that talk about an open door policy, Russia DOES have a veto. It always did.
So does that veto apply to finland
 
So does that veto apply to finland
To be frank, I doubt Russia has much of any control over its neighboring states anymore after this military blunder. The veto was creating a military conflict to stall NATO membership. Russia COULD start a military conflict with Finland if NATO membership seemed imminent, but I doubt it. Finland, while important, doesn't hold the same historical connotations as Ukraine or Georgie do, so I can't imagine them starting another war when it looks like they're not going to even win this one.
 
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FM Kuleba: Ukraine, US agree on next steps to reduce number of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine. Dmytro Kuleba made the announcement following his meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden, and other top U.S. officials on March 26 in Poland.

For this to be possible, only with S-300.
 
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FM Kuleba: Ukraine, US agree on next steps to reduce number of Russian missiles hitting Ukraine. Dmytro Kuleba made the announcement following his meeting with U.S. President Joe Biden, and other top U.S. officials on March 26 in Poland.

For this to be possible, only with S-300.
how do they want to do that without engaging russians or do an NFZ?
 
One thing that has caught my attention is how it seems that Russian missiles are not so accurate. At the beginning of the war, one of the images that drew the most attention was a Russian missile that had targeted a building in Kharkiv and landed on the street in front, laterally to the target and hit the street, destroying cars and injuring civilians. Articles came out talking about 60% errors. I compare it to the accuracy of Iranian missiles. Just remember their accuracy against the attack on the US base in Iraq and some attacks against the Saudis, there are missiles that hit fuel tanks precisely in the middle of the target. Is NATO somehow interfering with Russian missiles?
 
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