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United States Civil War

Publius said:
And if one of your compatriots show up in the dark at my farm it will not go well.
Which honestly I don’t expect them to. Because I don’t have a vapor light outside and city people are scared of the dark🤣🤣🤣🤣
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It won’t be one of my city folks, chances are it will be someone close to you. That’s how civil wars work. Seriously, what do you think a civil war would look* like?
 
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intel-bank said:
It won’t be one of my city folks, chances are it will be someone close to you. That’s how civil wars work. Seriously, what do you think a civil war looks like?
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there are plenty of examples, pick one. Us civil war in the 1800's, Ceausecu in the 80's, the break up of the soviet union, idi amin?
 
what's interesting is and i will say is that the left band up to cover up and clash against the government but they wont band up and buy a large piece of land and grow food and live with each other, i guess even the left can't be amongst themselves?.
 
Gargolu said:
what's interesting is and i will say is that the left band up to cover up and clash against the government but they wont band up and buy a large piece of land and grow food and live with each other, i guess even the left can't be amongst themselves?.
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They do that on a small scale and then the US government goes after communes and mutual aid systems before they get too big. Also like, the whole city of Portland kinda is like that but yk, yalls send troops in.
 
intel-bank said:
It won’t be one of my city folks, chances are it will be someone close to you. That’s how civil wars work. Seriously, what do you think a civil war would look* like?
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Yet it was you who said it would happen. What am supposed to infer from that other than it is someone irregardless of where they live who you are sympathetic with and shares your values
You still own it
 
intel-bank said:
fuck it, not worth it. im done
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Excellent.
Thank you all for the spirited, but unfortunately ugly debate. This entire thread is an embarrassment. Everyone involved, myself included have lessend rather than added to this site.

Reflection over time may change so behavior, but I doubt it.

I would lock this but it would just start up again.
 
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Torch said:
Excellent.
Thank you all for the spirited, but unfortunately ugly debate. This entire thread is an embarrassment. Everyone involved, myself included have leased rather than added to this site.

Reflection over time may change so behavior, but I doubt it.

I would lock this but it would just start up again.
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Indeed. This thread is unfortunately pretty indicative of America right now. Shame on us I guess. I don’t even think I can blame elites anymore I think we all just kinda lost the plot somewhere.
 
Torch said:
Excellent.
Thank you all for the spirited, but unfortunately ugly debate. This entire thread is an embarrassment. Everyone involved, myself included have leased rather than added to this site.

Reflection over time may change so behavior, but I doubt it.

I would lock this but it would just start up again.
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Well, it kinda showed me as an european that US politics are to the point that people (here) can't really debate about it without being angry (or insulting, or belitting other peoples)

However, i do thanks the people that did answer the question i asked to understand better the situation
 
Gargolu said:
there are plenty of examples, pick one. Us civil war in the 1800's, Ceausecu in the 80's, the break up of the soviet union, idi amin?
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Only one of those was a civil war sensu stricto - I'm talking, of course, about the US Civil War.

Regarding the others:
  • Ceausescu's downfall was a classic example of a revolution,
  • The breakup of the Soviet Union was a peaceful dissolution (although it did directly trigger several civil wars; most notably in the former Yugoslavia),
  • The case of Idi Amin was a foreign invasion (Tanzanian army invaded Uganda and ousted Amin from power).
 
Is any of this not really to be expected from time to time?
People are invested in there world view and ideas about what will and wont work.

I’ll throw a bone out there. There might be a day in the future were boarders and national identities matter much less. So to aspire to it is not a bad thing.
But is it practical or even doable right now without so disrupting the various nations that it leads us to where we are now.

Laws or regulations must come from the whole, not from the top. If they come from the top down it will always cause divisions and push back. Just as if a vocal minority push to hard for drastic changes, there will always be push back.

Cultures, society’s, and nations will always exist in a state of tension both within and without. There should be no surprise in any of this.
A static state is not a natural state. Neither is forcing a culture to dramatically change a natural thing.

People are attached to ideas and concepts of culture and society for reason. In many it goes unspoken what it is that deeply has attached them to concepts of governance and culture.
They are so attached because for generations those concepts and ideas have in fact worked and served them well.


One can also not escape the reality that there are some that actively use social upheaval as tool not so much for the betterment of society. But as a tool for control and power. Maybe not for political or financial gain but simply to advance a person moral value. Religious zealots do this just and academic and social theorist zealots do it as well.
 
NuclearID said:
This thread has run it's course & should be locked, than buried to history, forever, so this open herpes soar on the forums is never seen again.

Like a relocated confederate civil war monument. Lock it up and let it burry itself in history.

@RiffRaff @DEFCON Warning System
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It’s just gonna wind up being opened in some other way like Torch said. This one isn’t gonna cool down it’s best it stays in this thread IMO
 
This thread has become a infectious disease to the forums. Needs to be amputated like a gangrene limb. Shame on all of you.

Please, ALL OF YOU, bug🤬-off somewhere else more appropriate for this garbage, like Twitter, Telegram, or Instagram.

(Hope staff make the wise choice to end this here.)
 
Peter Griffin said:
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yeah and their were the medical experiments and sterilizations and a whole host of terrible things done to blacks. And now just for a minute consider what ideology and political group they were conceived by.

If a person can’t recognize between legal and illegal immigration it’s waste of time trying to come to any kind of concession.
My family was stopped by klan members in Yazzo city in the sixties wanting to know what t=us Yankee republicans were doing there. Or people leaving the city pool because my dad had a black man live with us for a summer on an agricultural exchange program, Of course and i know the families that the city pool because they didn’t want their kids around blacks, and they weren’t republicans. Or the five exchange students we hosted from Latin america Europe and Asia. In an all white farm town with a population of 1800, and a history with the klan.
This obsession with race purely for political gain is nauseating.
We either are a nation of laws or were not a nation.
 
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