Where Is The Line Between "Freedom of The Press" and "Treason?"

[william]

TRUMP JUST HANDED THE MEDIA THREE OPTIONS. ALL THREE END IN A JAIL CELL OR A WAR CRIME.

An American F-15 pilot was fighting for his life inside Iran. Missing. Hunted. Hundreds of rescuers searching in silence to keep him alive. Then a leaker talked.

"They didn't know there was somebody missing until this leaker gave the information!"

Iran found out. Iran put a BOUNTY on him.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2076313080586248666

 

[DEFCON Warning System]

Interesting question. Treason is a large word to throw around, though.

 

[william]

To me it would be if you leak info DURING a military operation that is treason. After it is concluded it would be ok to shine a light on it. IMO "Loose Lips Sink Ships"

https://twitter.com/x/status/2076673841913344136

 

[william]

Do they want to cover up nefarious activity or save lives and capital infrastructure such as ships and planes?

 

[Gargolu]

ya but how many political leaders ( so called leaders ) are in treasonous act? what's ever to be done about it? nothing? or is there something much larger cause they wont act on it? so many questions.

 

[Publius]

ya but how many political leaders ( so called leaders ) are in treasonous act? what's ever to be done about it? nothing? or is there something much larger cause they wont act on it? so many questions.

We have a fairly robust court and media system in the US. I’m sure if the DoJ wants to pursue it they will. And the media, especially the current media in the US will dissect it throughly. Then the courts and public opinion will weigh in on it.

Surprise this is exactly how our legal and policy system is designed to work.

 

[Loadstain]

https://twitter.com/x/status/2078916456490631393

 

[william]

Man who carried Clinton nuclear 'football' reveals what 'scares the hell out of me' about Air Force One story​

A retired Air Force lieutenant colonel who carried the nuclear "football" for former President Bill Clinton says the extraordinary Air Force One shell game departing Ankara, Turkey, last month to protect President Donald Trump from a potential attack was hardly unprecedented.

"It was brilliant," retired Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson told Fox News Digital. "I wish I had been a part of it. That's how well done it was."

But Patterson is warning that exposing the vital national security secrets behind such operations could put presidents, military personnel and the White House press corps in danger for years to come.

Patterson served as Clinton's senior military aide for a period of two years and was responsible for the president’s emergency satchel, and in a 20-minute interview Wednesday, he explained how presidential decoys, aircraft swaps and other acts of deception are longstanding tools used to protect the commander in chief, his senior officials and the "privileged" Air Force One press corps.

What alarms him, Patterson said, is not that Trump’s security team used the tactic — including the catering truck sleight of hand he was intimately a part of during the Clinton administration — but that details of how it was done are now spilling into public view.

"I hope that they prosecute this to the fullest," Patterson said. "Whoever leaked that, in my opinion, and having been involved in this, was highly placed in that process."

"There’s only a few people who actually know exactly what’s going down, and that’s by design," he added. "So if somebody leaked it, it was somebody involved in the process, and that scares the hell out of me."

"We use decoys all the time," he said. "We use decoy in the motorcade routes."

"It works," he added, "and for people to want to have visibility into actually how it works would be particularly troubling and it would cause reverberations in our American system for years."

That is why, he argued, demands to expose the mechanics of the latest operation risk doing more damage than the public scrutiny is worth.

Patterson said the protections are intended not merely for Trump, Clinton or any individual president, but to ensure continuity of the presidency itself.

"President Trump's only got two more years," he said. "These programs are going to be in place for the foreseeable future, and they've been in place in our past for quite a while. So it's not just about Trump. These programs exist to protect no matter who the president is and the team around him."

Patterson, who is a conservative and outspoken New York Times bestselling author highly critical of the man he carried the nuclear football for, warned divisive politics against Trump is dangerous for U.S. national security.

Man who carried Clinton nuclear 'football' reveals what 'scares the hell out of me' about Air Force One story

Retired Air Force Lt Col Robert Patterson said he suspects a "highly placed" leaker revealed the story of President Donald Trump's Air Force One swap.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Yingyang]

Great except it was only the president and immediate security detail who diverted. Press and everyone else remained on original plane.

 

[william]

I am old enough to remember watching this on national TV.

Jane Fonda in North Vietnam, 1972. While American POWs were being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton, she posed for photos on an NVA anti-aircraft gun, recorded radio broadcasts telling U.S. pilots they were war criminals, and smiled for the cameras of the regime that was killing our people.

Some celebrities get applauded for “speaking truth to power.” This is what it looked like when the power was the enemy and the truth got American names on the Wall.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2088026560557121788

And it's happening again with CNN on the ground reporting on the iranian resistance. Anyone remember "Bagdad Bob" saying that the American forces were going to be crushed, as American tanks rolled into the square live on TV.

 

[william]

Here is one from newsweek. The average American that isn't following the war, going through a checkout line will see this on the magazine rack

What total Iranian victory over Trump looks like: Five war goals explained​

Iranian observers say this confidence is rooted in their government’s steadfast belief that it has gained the upper hand in the war amid reports of mounting frustration in the White House.

“Trump imposed this illegal war on Iran, but the Iranians stood firm and resilient, and have defeated America so far,” Tehran-based security analyst Alireza Taghavinia told Newsweek.

“Iran is seeking compensation and considers itself the victor in the war because it was able to defeat America, thwart Trump’s goals, and gain control of the Strait of Hormuz.”

The crisis has prompted a further plummeting of popular opinion toward the war, according to multiple surveys.

Gee, I wonder why when you read American defeatism like the above!

What total Iranian victory over Trump looks like: Five war goals explained

"Iran must be recognized in the world as a normal and powerful actor," a Tehran-based security analyst told Newsweek.

www.newsweek.com

 

[DEFCON Warning System]

Jane Fonda in North Vietnam, 1972. While American POWs were being tortured in the Hanoi Hilton, she posed for photos on an NVA anti-aircraft gun, recorded radio broadcasts telling U.S. pilots they were war criminals, and smiled for the cameras of the regime that was killing our people.

I'm really surprised she wasn't convicted for treason for that. Isn't that the definition of the word?

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. - Article III, Section 3

 

[william]

How about this one

Crisis unfolds on Trump’s warship in the Middle East​

Trumps warship! I thought it was a US warship!

Sailors say life on the Lincoln, still stuck in the Middle East, has grown unbearable after more than eight months at sea. US lawmakers have raised concerns about a lack of food, water contamination and the deteriorating mental health of staff on board.

Democratic senator Richard Blumenthal brought concerns about conditions on board the Lincoln to the fore on Wednesday in a letter to the defence secretary and the acting head of the navy.

In his letter, Blumenthal cited “widespread reports” of “shortages of basic supplies, water contamination, plumbing issues, deteriorating mental health, deck safety concerns, and disruptions in the mail system, which have caused many care packages in route to the ship to be lost in transit for months”.

Democratic senator Ruben Gallego urged the military to allow a congressional delegation to visit the ship and “conduct oversight investigation into this horrible situation”.

They are NOT having to repair battle damage from missile strikes or have burials at sea from it!
So they might have to eat peanut butter sandwiches for a bit.
SUCK IT UP! THE ONLY GOOD DAY WAS YESTERDAY!

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[DEFCON Warning System]

Extended duty takes a toll. Lincoln needs to be rotated out.

 

[teekay99]

Extended duty takes a toll. Lincoln needs to be rotated out.

@NuclearID posted a video from Ryan McBeth discussing the Lincoln's situation. The media and social media blowhards are exaggerating the situation. For one thing, the carrier is in a regular combat state so for the naval officers on board, this is nowhere like a plush stay at the Hilton and social media influencers have no clue about that. At the same time, our Navy is likely undersized and that is putting stress on existing forces, like the Lincoln. It does need to be rotated out. Hopefully that can happen soon for our naval service personnel on the Lincoln.

Here is the original post from @NuclearID.

MISINFORMATION ALERT!

Misinformation by MSN. This is why I say don't use OSINT accounts and definitely don't use MSN. Video clears misinformation around USS Lincoln and what can be confirmed and what cannot.

 

[NuclearID]

Extended duty takes a toll. Lincoln needs to be rotated out.

Lincoln. It does need to be rotated out.

I reported it is. A new carrier group en route to relieve her. Let me find report.

 

[NuclearID]

I reported it is. A new carrier group en route to relieve her. Let me find report.

Yep: @DEFCON Warning System @teekay99

The USS George Washington carrier group crossed Singapore toward the Indian Ocean after leaving Da Nang. Reporting indicates it is intended to relieve the USS Abraham Lincoln, which has spent more than 260 days at sea and has operated in the Middle East since January.

This is a carrier rotation, not a confirmed net reinforcement.

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