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Zaporizhzhia NPP

Will Russia blow up Zaporizhzhia?

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OReid said:
Snorting that speed ball would be much more effective and it’s probably PCP not meth
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^^ people are just tweeking out here.

If you continue to say this your flocked out your mind. I'll 1:2 bet you on this..hit me up with a cash price and I'll give you a month for this to happen.

For each dollar you bet I give you 2.
 
It's nearly impossible to cause a major nuclear accident at the ZNPP from the outside, and also very difficult to do it from the inside. Yes; Russia (or arguably Ukraine) might take action which would cause some localized radioactive contamination; however - unlike blowing up the Kakhovka dam - the actual military value of such an accident would be low.

If a nuclear accident occurs at ZNPP (regardless of who's behind it) and Russia uses it as an excuse to escalate, it means it's what they were planning to do all along. I believe it's very important to avoid confusing cause and pretext.
 
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There's actually a change on the ZNPP satellite imagery taken on July 5th and published by
@planet
: new objects appeared on the 4th power unit's roof since July 3rd.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1676717259224408073
 
alphaecho said:
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There's actually a change on the ZNPP satellite imagery taken on July 5th and published by
@planet
: new objects appeared on the 4th power unit's roof since July 3rd.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1676717259224408073
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Stills. I'm not an expert and the resolution is not enough to judge, but it may be some EW devices, which Russia likes to install on the roofs so much. An access for
@iaeaorg
experts is needed, or at least better quality imagery.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1676717268820979712
 
Socom7 said:
It's nearly impossible to cause a major nuclear accident at the ZNPP from the outside, and also very difficult to do it from the inside. Yes; Russia (or arguably Ukraine) might take action which would cause some localized radioactive contamination; however - unlike blowing up the Kakhovka dam - the actual military value of such an accident would be low.

If a nuclear accident occurs at ZNPP (regardless of who's behind it) and Russia uses it as an excuse to escalate, it means it's what they were planning to do all along. I believe it's very important to avoid confusing cause and pretext.
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What about air launched bunker busters? Russia does have the KAB-1500LG-Pr-E.

I think the Russians have the ability to breach the containment building, even though it would be tricky.
 
Friendly Engineer said:
What about air launched bunker busters? Russia does have the KAB-1500LG-Pr-E.

I think the Russians have the ability to breach the containment building, even though it would be tricky.
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Well, obviously they do. They control the building, so they can blow it up (with effort). But that would only spread the nuclear fuel around the perimeter of the plant, causing localized contamination. The fuel is a hard, unreactive oxide, and unlike Chernobyl there's no graphite in the reactor core that might burn and disperse radioactive ash. It's much more difficult to vaporize stuff with explosives than Hollywood would make us belive. Hence my point - they can blow up the containment buildings, but it would be very difficult - if not outright impossible - to contaminate large areas that way. Which, again, brings us to the same question - "why bother?"

Edit: on second thought I acknowledge that if the fuel gets into the groundwater a large swath of the Dnieper downstream of the plant could be contaminated, possibly extending into the Black Sea. This, however, has no military value in terms of stopping a potential Ukrainian counteroffensive, and would merely be a pointless ecological disaster mainly affecting Russian-held areas.
 
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Hello to all....honestly I struggle to understand why people are giving to this story so much attention (maybe because of the fact that the media loves to build article over this kind of topics even if the consequence is spreading non sense).
ZNPP imminent blow up is a topic that cyclically comes out...because one or both of the sides are accusing each other about an imminent terrorist attack...because it goes on fire, because of the dam, because of the water and so on...

Now Budanov (head of UKR intelligence) after weeks of fear mongering, comes out saying that:
""The risk of a Russian terrorist attack on the ZNPP is decreasing".

Honestly this story is looking very entertaining at best, ridiculous at worst, from every single point of view.

Apart from clearly invented, unsourced, or "trust me bro" sourced, or fear mongers generated information which can be found, there are some points which are quite obvious.
1) IAEA is living in the site from a year...this should already be enough to have people ignoring all the loud propaganda around ZNPP. I trust more scientists than reporters, or self made intel analysts on Twitter that cannot make 2+2
2) From a Ukrainian POV, blowing up ZNPP makes no sense obviously. One could say...they would blame Russia for that to have NATO join the fight. That's very unrealistic because NATO would still not intervene because of this kind of accident.
3) From a Russian POV, blowing up ZNPP would result in no tactical gain, in a political mess, and probably in contamination of "their own" regions because of the winds.
4) Nothing like Chernobyl, Fukushima or TMI could happen if ZNPP is somehow bombed. There could be indeed a minor leak, which would not even spread with significant effects outside of Ukraine/Russia
5) The story about the "new objects" on the roof of reactor/turbine hall n° 4....that's another funny speculation...so Russia, installs explosives in what seem to be bright white boxes in a low res sat image, on the roof of a reactor, In a completely random and illogical disposition, to secretly blow up a turbine hall, while at the same time, letting the whole world to find out thanks to sat imagery?
Ok...

Not saying that this cannot happen. Everything can happen.
When it comes to probability and logics, that's a different story.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1676903222500270081
 
⚠️ Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant has been put into a "hot shutdown" state today by order of the occupation leadership, Energoatom has said.
.Such actions are a gross violation of the requirements of the license to operate a nuclear facility, the agency added.Meanwhile, the IAEA said that they found Russian mines at ZNPP, but they were in the buffer zone between the internal and external perimeter of the plant.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1683582163982139393
 
Blah blah blah, it's time for the monthly scaremongering about ZPP.
Get ready for tomorrow's headlines like: "Russia is about to blow up ZPP"..."Chief of Ukraine's intelligence Budanov has reports that ZNPP will explode in 5 minutes".

No esplosive found, anti personnel mines are in the outside perimeter, unaccessible to plant workers, no threat to the nuclear safety from the mines.
That's the truth told by IAEA.

The experts reported that they were situated in a restricted area that operating plant personnel cannot access and were facing away from the site. The team did not observe any within the inner site perimeter during the walkdown.

Earlier today, the experts visited the reactor unit 6 main control room, emergency control room, the rooms where electrical cabinets of the safety systems are located, and parts of the turbine hall where they saw the main feedwater pumps, main turbine oil tank and main condenser. While the team was not able to visit all areas in the turbine hall, they did not observe any mines or explosives.

The plant has begun its planned transition of reactor unit 4 from cold to hot shutdown, informing the IAEA experts that the relevant tests were carried out and that the unit is heating up. Unit 4 is expected to reach hot shutdown status on 25 July. Once that is done, reactor unit 5 – now in hot shutdown – will be placed in cold shutdown in order to carry out preventive maintenance activities that are only possible in cold shutdown. The other units remain in cold shutdown.
even if the IAEA’s initial assessment based on its own observations and the plant’s clarifications is that any detonation of these mines should not affect the site’s nuclear safety and security systems.

Update 175 – IAEA Director General Statement on Situation in Ukraine | IAEA

www.iaea.org www.iaea.org
 

Ukrainian staff at Zaporizhzhia NPP refuse to switch power unit into hot shutdown mode in spite of order by Russians​

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www.pravda.com.ua

Ukrainian staff at Zaporizhzhia NPP refuse to switch power unit into hot shutdown mode in spite of order by Russians

All Ukrainians at the occupied Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP) have refused to comply with the Russian order to switch the power unit into a hot shutdown mode, which contradicts the rules of nuclear and radiation safety.
www.pravda.com.ua www.pravda.com.ua
 
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