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UA-RU-NATO | DISCUSSIONS 14th July - 1st October 2023
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It’s even funnier because Russia is supposed to have this vast supply of military hardware and ammo stashed somewhere in Russia.
I’m beginning to think that somewhere between the fall of the Soviets and now Russia has lost track of about half dozen massive underground weapons bunkers.
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I think a lot of that stuff was sold to other countries due to corruption and greed.
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And probably stored incorrectly so is debatable if even functional.
Suspending Russias Veto wound be sufficient and since it would pass to a General Assembly Member via lottery it might be easier to pass, moving from compl impossible to nearly improvable.
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Yes, but I have not found the "part 2".
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They’re animals“The state authorities of Ukraine have identified 19,000 abducted children…”
The exact number of Ukrainian children deported by Russia is unknown, - representative of the President of Ukraine for children's rights - Freedom
Currently, there are no exact figures on how many Ukrainian children Russia ...uatv.ua
“ <The> children’s ombudsman of the Russian Federation, Lviv-Belov…”
…said that 58,000 children were taken away. For them it is exported, for us it is deported. And if these are children unaccompanied by adults, then it is kidnapping.
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They’re animals.
Don’t trust them
Don’t believe them
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Typical Nazi speech
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Wouldn't this lead to a disintegration or fracturing of the UN? It may not be perfect, but it at least something to support a dialog.....
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Perhaps, although if Russia went nuclear (unlikely) then even countries like China would understand a uniting for peace resolution.
However if you tried something like that now without an extreme act like that occurring, China might get a bit tetchy and if China pulled out, the UN could turn into the League of Nations.
Please explain how my comment has anything to do with National Socialism.
I’m talking about people (and I named a specific examples of the lady) who have kidnapped ~60,000 Ukrainian children. They are assholes. They act like and are animals.They’re repugnant and disgusting human beings.
My comment has absolutely nothing to do with the Nazi party you <self edit> fine person.
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Continuing from the Reports forum:
@Silent may have been trying to argue that minimizing an adversary by using the term "animal" is similar to the tactic used by National Socialists against their adversaries (Jewish people, Slavic people) to justify the evil acts, crimes against humanity, and war crimes the Nazis performed upon them.
The difference here is that I haven't seen @Torch advocate terrorizing Russians or use the term "animal" to justify committing war crimes or crimes against humanity upon Russians. I conclude that the statements "They’re animals. Don’t trust them Don’t believe them" are perhaps directed toward the Russian government and Russian military actors. That happens in conflict and war on all sides.
So @Torch - IMO your statements have little to do with National Socialism.
@Silent may have been trying to argue that minimizing an adversary by using the term "animal" is similar to the tactic used by National Socialists against their adversaries (Jewish people, Slavic people) to justify the evil acts, crimes against humanity, and war crimes the Nazis performed upon them.
The difference here is that I haven't seen @Torch advocate terrorizing Russians or use the term "animal" to justify committing war crimes or crimes against humanity upon Russians. I conclude that the statements "They’re animals. Don’t trust them Don’t believe them" are perhaps directed toward the Russian government and Russian military actors. That happens in conflict and war on all sides.
So @Torch - IMO your statements have little to do with National Socialism.
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I have stated several times that I want to see the war prosecuted within the laws and customs of warfare.
The “and customs” part is very important. That means nobody taking advantage of a situation to harm otherwise lawful noncombatants.
Also its my statement at the end is a quote from Captain Kirk in “Star Trek the Undiscovered Country” and Kirk was actually shown to be wrong in his statements and he came to except it.
Im still waiting on the “shown to be wrong part”
The “and customs” part is very important. That means nobody taking advantage of a situation to harm otherwise lawful noncombatants.
Also its my statement at the end is a quote from Captain Kirk in “Star Trek the Undiscovered Country” and Kirk was actually shown to be wrong in his statements and he came to except it.
Im still waiting on the “shown to be wrong part”
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Oh I didn't even pick up on the reference to The Undiscovered Country.
Well executed....
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If you consider biology then all people are essentially animals so I always find this insult stating a truth and a little ridiculous. Need to have a better description.
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and for those of you who wonder why negotiations have gone nowhere
Putin: Ball Now on Ukraine’s Side With Regard to Talks
Ukraine abandoned the agreements reached after the withdrawal of Russian troops from the Kiev area and Moscow does not understand why Western countries are dragging Ukraine into NATO, Russian President Vladimir Putin said.sputnikglobe.com
And now a word from Moscow.
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Heavy propaganda white noise just like usual. Really convenient to blame Russia for everything, while abducting lots of kids and women refugees for famous Western black markets of organ and sex slavery. I've heard many mentions from Ukraine refugees on shady cars at Polish border who offer shelter and help for women and children refugees and never heard again of those who took the ride.“The state authorities of Ukraine have identified 19,000 abducted children…”
The exact number of Ukrainian children deported by Russia is unknown, - representative of the President of Ukraine for children's rights - Freedom
Currently, there are no exact figures on how many Ukrainian children Russia ...
“ <The> children’s ombudsman of the Russian Federation, Lviv-Belov…”
…said that 58,000 children were taken away. For them it is exported, for us it is deported. And if these are children unaccompanied by adults, then it is kidnapping.
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They’re animals.
Don’t trust them
Don’t believe them
Your society cannot function without having another bad guy to blame their own fucked up shit who won't talk back, and heavy media indocrination.
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That's the way it is. Bravo!! Pure propaganda and Nazi speech.
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admins? he just said citizen is using Nazi speech?That's the way it is. Bravo!! Pure propaganda and Nazi speech.
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While I can agree Ukrainian and westerns are not immune from bad shit and people. No question it goes both ways.
It’s also highly ironic the charges that are society can’t survive with out a bad guy to blame everything on.
It was that very type of argument that justified the invasion.
We have to do this for this that and the other reason.
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Every political group who has ever gained power /used/uses propaganda as a tool/weapon. NOT just the NAZI's.That's the way it is. Bravo!! Pure propaganda and Nazi speech.
Please everyone refrain from calling anyone who espouses a view opposite yours a NAZI.
Its constant use actually diminishes the impact of the horror and atrocities committed by the actual NAZI's.
Again, stop.
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