So, to recap:
July 13, 2024: Alleged attempted assassination attempt on Donald Trump
December 4, 2024: United Health Care CEO Brian Thompson murdered in the street in New York City
Spring, 2025: Multiple violent attacks on Tesla dealerships, employees, and customers due to Elon Musk's support of Donald Trump
April 13, 2025: Pennsylvania Governor's mansion was set on fire by an arsonist with Josh Shapiro and his family inside
June 14, 2025: Minnesota state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, were both shot in their home (injured)
June 14 2025: Minnesota state senator Melissa Hortman and her husband were both shot and killed in their home
September 15, 2024: A second alleged assassination attempt on Donald Trump in West Palm Beach, Florida
September 10, 2025: Charlie Kirk shot and killed by a sniper from 200 yards
Colored text shows the political affiliation of the victims. Did I leave anyone out? I could go back further, but right now I'm limiting it to 2024 and 2025.
At this point, I believe the United States is in the early stages of a second US Civil War. People from both political parties are engaging in lethal violence against people from the opposing party. Beyond that, they are celebrating these deaths.
My personal opinion is this: If you are still actively supporting either party, you are part of the problem. If people start disavowing themselves from both parties and support for those politicians start to dry up, it might have some impact. However, this will never happen. Too many people are in love with the thought of hurting or killing other people, so we are way past the point of no return.
America is dying, and both Democrats and Republicans are the ones responsible.
I agree with you in part. Here is a real world problem though. If sufficient numbers of people left their party affiliation.
Where does they’re political support and input go? Into a void, a vacuum.
Go to the libertarian, how many years will it take for the libertarians to be just the same?
We could ban parties outright.
Who or what them would bring/control candidates face and platforms to public forefront then?
Media, unions, churches.
Unless you make political parties illegal.
There will always be the natural aggregation and coalitions formed creating new ones. Thus the same issues.
I agree America is in trouble. I would argue the problem rest not so much with parties as with the separations of powers between states and federal. As well as separation of powers between executive and legislative at the federal level.
Many of the legal and social divisions/conflicts in the nation were designed and intended to be legislated and regulated almost exclusively by the individual States for their separate states. Where they could be voted on by people closest to such laws that directly impacted by them.
By allowing it to be subsumed by the federal gov we have created a cauldron of competing entities that have little to no interest or input by local voters.
Thus the representative republic model has been metastasized into a national empire.
There are only a few things the constitution allows the federal government to dictate or oversee and impose upon the states. I won’t go into them in order to not deride the thread.
But most of us know them at least in part.
We cannot simply walk away from the party system without something to walk to. Governing by the republic model of States each administering domestic laws and regulations. With no national depts of anything related to domestic governance.
None of those things are constitutionally legitimate entities for the federal gov. ZERO!
Make the representative elected closest to the people have the power to act and actually have to work at governing. Rather than than campaigning.
Some will argue this is to inefficient. It is inefficient. If you read some of the founders it was designed to be inefficient to some degree. They wanted it that way because they knew that government with that broad a centralized power would always metastasize into a tyrannical self serving entity. Which is what our two party system has in many ways done.
And thus here we are today.
Parties themselves are not the problem. It’s the mechanism of government that has made them so corrupt and incompetent.
As far as political violence, we are a mostly free people, with protections to guard our free speech AND our right to bear arms. Why are we surprised?
Seriously why are we surprised?
We’ve always experienced political violence. It is the intermittent political norm for a free society. To argue it isn’t is simply lying to oneself. We want to believe and tell ourselves we have matured as a nation and risen above this kind of political violence. But it’s not true and never will be.
Violence is not born out of laws or lack of laws. It is born from the hearts and minds of individuals.
Charlie Kirk was shot it appears by someone with fairly decent long gun training. Distance, high angle, smaller caliber of rifle that would tumble and not exit. Iryna Zarutska was stabbed likely by a pocket knife by an unstable and untrained individual due to some mental breakdown.
Violence is terrible, and violence like this is what reminds us we are animals/fallen and all our endeavors at collective society and governance can and will always sometimes produce violence.
A special form of governance was created for us a long time ago.
But we are not special, we might be if we can prove we can find it again.
I for one do not want a nation or society where political violence never occurs.
Because in truth that nation will not be a nation of free people. It will be a nation of serfs or indentured servants to the state.
And the amount of violence states such as that can inflict on their own far surpass the intermittent political violence of a (mostly) free society.
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Feels like we’re being played. Classic hybrid warfare a kinetic shock to light the fuse, then bot herds with AI faces and copy paste bios chanting “civil war” to push us over the edge.
The left just made a martyr out of him. 
