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Kalingrad-Lithuania | 2022

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There is a clarification of what steel and ferrous materials are prohibited in accordance of the fourth round of EU sanctions against Russia.
That is all that is happening at the moment between EU trade reps and Lithuania.
These metals make up one percent of goods that pass through the rail transit.

This is not a “blockaid” this is a economic trade sanction that has been planned out since the March EU trade meetings.
What it is is a talking point of Russia to stoke fear and use it as a fulcrum to cause division via propaganda.
watch out Babayaga might come for you in the night👹
 
dave II judgement day said:
no I mean the EU is looking to back down on this by somehow finding a clause that says that "oops actually says here that transit of sanctioned goods to kaliningrad through the eu is fine after all, sorry about all that"
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If it's like that, it's ok. If they have switched from beyond 50% at 1% of goods blocked, it's now only something symbolic.
 
Narwal808 said:
If that's true that's absolutely insane. Do you know if there are any government sources on this because I can't find any right now. Sounds like a policy they would want to sweep under the rug though.
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This was established under George W Bush after 9/11, if I'm not mistaken. I used to have the specific reference, but it might take me a while to find it.
 
Some reports coming in that a "compromise" (whatever that means) has been worked out between EC and Russia, but is opposed by the Lithuanian president Nausėda.

Details not currently available, but reading between the lines this would probably involve some kind of transit corridor. Likely a non-starter for Lithuania, as the parallels with Hitler's infamous "Danzig corridor" are kind of obvious.
 
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Socom7 said:
Some reports coming in that a "compromise" (whatever that means) has been worked out between EC and Russia, but is opposed by the Lithuanian president Nausėda.

Details not currently available, but reading between the lines this would probably involve some kind of transit corridor. Likely a non-starter for Lithuania, as the parallels with Hitler's infamous "Danzig corridor" are kind of obvious.
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it was always kind of obvious that the halting of transit was mostly Lithuania's idea and not a EU consensus move, I wonder how this situation will be when it is Lithuania alone in support of the move. I believe the term for a situation like this is "alliance entrapment". it is still my belief that this is a move to turn up the heat on the whole of NATO in order to drum out some threatening statements towards the Baltics to get consensus at the upcoming summit on the stationing of a far greater permanent NATO force in the Balitcs, and if this is what it takes to get say, the Germans to agree to this fully then so be it, it is absolutely imperative to have a much larger force there and yesterday. Wish there was a better way then playing russian roulette with ww3 to get that force there though.
 
a fifth option is that the EU will back down and make an exception for Kaliningrad. this is the most likely option. if not, then I would recommend a recalculating of the current defcon level.
 
Sooooo Russia is ok to actually blockaid Odessa.
But enforcing sanctions on limited goods to Kaliningrad is some how a travesty and catalyst for WW3?
Call me skeptical but it’s bunk!
First it was a blockaid and food was running out in Kaliningrad and Russians were would starve. Then it was well it “could” be very easy.
Now it’s there might be some wavering in the EU on some of the items.
And Kaliningrad did this all on its own to draw nato into war.
It is foolish to think Lithuania did not get the approval of nato and the EU.
And there are already nato forces and equipment in Lithuania.
It was the enactment of the next round of scheduled sanctions of the EU.
And other than vodka most of this banned freight will reach them via St Petersburg.
 
Socom7 said:
Some reports coming in that a "compromise" (whatever that means) has been worked out between EC and Russia, but is opposed by the Lithuanian president Nausėda.

Details not currently available, but reading between the lines this would probably involve some kind of transit corridor. Likely a non-starter for Lithuania, as the parallels with Hitler's infamous "Danzig corridor" are kind of obvious.
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If they find a compromise, it would be better. Danzig corridor is quite an other story, at leas because in this case the "corriror" was already established from both in bilateral agreements.

dave II judgement day said:
it was always kind of obvious that the halting of transit was mostly Lithuania's idea and not a EU consensus move, I wonder how this situation will be when it is Lithuania alone in support of the move. I believe the term for a situation like this is "alliance entrapment". it is still my belief that this is a move to turn up the heat on the whole of NATO in order to drum out some threatening statements towards the Baltics to get consensus at the upcoming summit on the stationing of a far greater permanent NATO force in the Balitcs, and if this is what it takes to get say, the Germans to agree to this fully then so be it, it is absolutely imperative to have a much larger force there and yesterday. Wish there was a better way then playing russian roulette with ww3 to get that force there though.
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I think that is not a Lithuiania's idea, like many Zelesky's ideas. Lithuania does what someone whispers in the ear. That said, is possible that the reasons are those you have said. But it doesn't seems to me a good idea trying to avoid WW3, risking to provoke it.
 
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Russia will protest this,but I do not believe that Putin is unhinged enough to open another front over it. He can move stuff by sea to avoid the blockade and he will probably issue some diplomatic harsh words over it…. But not much more.

Lithuanian forces are probably on high alert and ready to deploy on 12 hours notice,at this point.
 
justwiseenough said:
Russia will protest this,but I do not believe that Putin is unhinged enough to open another front over it. He can move stuff by sea to avoid the blockade and he will probably issue some diplomatic harsh words over it…. But not much more.

Lithuanian forces are probably on high alert and ready to deploy on 12 hours notice,at this point.
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Lithuania AND NATO forces would be on high alert.
 
bartok said:
Scuse me... but I really don't understand what's the problem with this kind of CESSNA plane that does back and forth over Kaliningrad. It's a new terrific terrible Russian weapon, ready to strike Lithuania?
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He’s commenting that this is a new signals plane Russia flying in missions over Kaliningrad.
It was pointed out by others there is nothing new in this.
I Didn’t recognize his level of concern either. Russia would have been flying these all along.
 
Obreid said:
He’s commenting that this is a new signals plane Russia flying in missions over Kaliningrad.
It was pointed out by others there is nothing new in this.
I Didn’t recognize his level of concern either. Russia would have been flying these all along.
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So it's a Russian aircraft, a kind of CESSNA, over Russian territory. Why "Lithuania AND NATO forces would be on high alert." for that?
Lithuania inittially makes a kind of blockade... nothing warring about that. Then a Russian CESSNA is flying over Russia... and all the NATO should be on high alert... mah! Generally, I undestand the situations... probably, not being Anglophone, I lost something.
 
bartok said:
So it's a Russian aircraft, a kind of CESSNA, over Russian territory. Why "Lithuania AND NATO forces would be on high alert." for that?
Lithuania inittially makes a kind of blockade... nothing warring about that. Then a Russian CESSNA is flying over Russia... and all the NATO should be on high alert... mah! Generally, I undestand the situations... probably, not being Anglophone, I lost something.
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Shady Russians hiding true aircraft under the guise of a Cessna? Swap a transponder and voila.
 
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