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Should the U.S. Reassess Its Military Role in Europe and Shift Focus to Asia?

Should the US withdraw from alliances , within 2-3 years anticipate americas enemies to wreak havoc history teaches us this way back to the romans and on,
 
Lostpuppy said:
The question ask?
Had the last year created more hositlity towards the USA?

If you take time to ponder,
You are now the European, and someone does what they done to you
How would you feel, react,

My opinion, politely ad i can put it,
I would likely enjoy giving you a bloody nose in the school yard.
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What do you mean the last year? Are we really gonna pretend like the Europeans haven’t been pious towards the United States for decades? Meanwhile bush told Europe to spend more on defense they didn’t, Obama told Europe to spend more on defense they didn’t, it took Trump threatening to cut them off and Russia invading Ukraine to get them to actually spend money on defense.

The United States is not innocent and I’m going to claim they are, but for Europe to sit back and claim they haven’t taken US protection for granted is a joke.
 
NuclearID said:
Mostly...

👉The important part is we just simply have bigger fish to fry in Asia. There is no reason why Europe can't handle Russia on its own. Together their military and and economies together out weigh Russia literally ten fold. So what the hell we still doing there while a awaking China keeps creeping in the Pacific almost unchecked.

Irregardless how anyone even myself feels about Europeans the main problem is is we can't split focus there's ZERO reason why the Europeans can't handle Russia while we take care of China in the Pacific.

It just makes it all that easier or all that better because now they don't even want us there. So what the hell we waiting for. Nostalgia's only good for TV, movies, and music, not policy.
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It’s also not like it’s a secret the U.S. has been planning to pivot to Asia, but we’re the bad guys for actually implementing it now. It’s been discussed for decades but Europe has sat on its toes pretending it won’t happen.
 
Snowfall said:
If the U.S. withdrawal from NATO allows for Europe to be invaded within 2-3 years, then it wasn’t a partnership it was a U.S. funded security guarantee.
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thats almost like saying you bought a car 20 years ago, used it, alot, and now you want your money back!!!

🤔💵💵💵💵💵💵💵
 
Lostpuppy said:
The question ask?
Had the last year created more hositlity towards the USA?
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From left leaning governments. Sure. The regular working European trying to live under mass migration and high cost of living I'm not so sure.
Lostpuppy said:
If you take time to ponder,
You are now the European, and someone does what they done to you
How would you feel, react,
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IMO, I think the US under this administration is trying to bring back various governments to the center right. Spain, Canada, UK, France, Germany Australia and others. They have drifted pretty far to the left.
Lostpuppy said:
My opinion, politely ad i can put it,
I would likely enjoy giving you a bloody nose in the school yard.
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No comment ;)
 
Lostpuppy said:
As the title change invokes a very different response,

Heres what i hear from many parts of the world thru my daily contacts, and its not good!

MAGA= Make America Go Away!

A new book title ,

How to Piss Off Friendly Nations

5 Easy Steps
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I find the tone of this post a strangely familiar diatribe.

I only made the point of comparison that blindly funneling aid to one nation is somehow strangely noble. Yet when this same process is applied for another nation is somehow regarded as being another nations bitch.

Note I supported honoring past memorandums with military aid up to and Including direct involvement. Only reluctantly withdrawing it because of lack of commitment to follow it through.


I have also acknowledged in advance that the campaign against Iran is a very risky gambit. One that still could fail.

I reference a previous question put to the forum.
Is the ardor with which people attack success in Iran less about risking improving things in the Middle East.
And more to do with the failure of a particular public figure.

After all all of the same bullet points listed for one nations cause could equally be assigned to the others.

Maybe ask questions and spend less time flagellating oneself and others.
 
Publius said:
I find the tone of this post a strangely familiar diatribe.

I only made the point of comparison that blindly funneling aid to one nation is somehow strangely noble. Yet when this same process is applied for another nation is somehow regarded as being another nations bitch.

Note I supported honoring past memorandums with military aid up to and Including direct involvement. Only reluctantly withdrawing it because of lack of commitment to follow it through.


I have also acknowledged in advance that the campaign against Iran is a very risky gambit. One that still could fail.

I reference a previous question put to the forum.
Is the ardor with which people attack success in Iran less about risking improving things in the Middle East.
And more to do with the failure of a particular public figure.

After all all of the same bullet points listed for one nations cause could equally be assigned to the others.

Maybe ask questions and spend less time flagellating oneself and others.
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Funny enough you are on the point with honoring obligations and blindly funnel aid, seems to make sense, strangly,
With respect to risk in Iran i agree its risky, very similar to Afganastan, Iraq, Syria, its everything about the midfle east is a minefield🤔

“Is the ardor with which people attack success in Iran less about risking improving things in the Middle East.
And more to do with the failure of a particular public figure.

Now if you directed this
“Maybe ask questions and spend less time flagellating oneself and others.”
in my direction 🤔

Success in Iran? Can you identify the success? Is the war won,? Hormuz opened? Oil prices lower? any other things you might come up with?

Improvements, , Expand on those improvements?

Why does failure of a particular public matter?
Can you expand? Iranian politicians? Are politicians who also have a responsiblity of leadership almost always the center of targetted prose be it good or bad?

Ardor, and attacking, Are you suggesting that comments and debate are Left right or center leaning ? This whole forum has that tendancy. 🤔

Asking question is a very good as opposed to whipping and lashing out I agree,
If we extract the politics and greed out of our world,
We would likely find peace🤞🏻

Appology for my rant(diatribe)
 

Should the U.S. Reassess Its Military Role in Europe and Shift Focus to Asia?​


To answer that question, the US should just mind its own business. Go away, the whole world will be happy. Go take care of your own problems; you have plenty of work to do.
 
Lostpuppy said:
And they are, which is good news, still the rhetoric is unbecoming of a true politician,🤔💵💵💵💵
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Yes they are, 20 years after we asked them to the first time and only because they’re afraid of the United States leaving them on their own. Which again raises the question, is it really an alliance if one member is collectively response for the entire thing staying together?
 
GBS61 said:

Should the U.S. Reassess Its Military Role in Europe and Shift Focus to Asia?​


To answer that question, the US should just mind its own business. Go away, the whole world will be happy. Go take care of your own problems; you have plenty of work to do.
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If the whole world will be happy, then why is it everytime the U.S. talks about pulling out of Europe, Europe gets mad and immediately starts calling us backstabbers?
 
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