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UA-RU | Feburary 21st-22nd | REPORTS

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Chaz said:
Hard to confirm as lots of misinformation going on. According to some sources on twitter this was walked back to be just his "opinion" maybe someone who is better apt at this than me can confirm or at least investigate further.
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Russia officials presented two oposite point of view. I know it sound strage but it its true.
I check fes reputablle offcials sources.
 
Throwaway said:
That was reporting on what is happening though, people just want to know what’s going on, acting like people are wrong for daring to give away a country’s classifed information is ridiculous.
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Then again, the local station published it, so if anyone were to geg their ass chewed, it would be the local station, i'd definitely would post something like this, plus its not ky problem the local news station published that, even if its "classified" then why the f the local station posted it? Its hilarious
 
RiffRaff said:
We will delete any post revealing Ukrainian troop movements. Russia might be able obtain that information through other sources, but they won't get it through us.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1496082742232166404
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Thank you! Love these forums even more now. I know where just making it harder for the Russians. They will get what they want information wise eventually. But we certainly shouldn't be handing it over to them on a platter! Have to give Russia a run for its money on every level.
 
DarkNoon said:
How is it going to make oil more tight? Nord isn't even up and running yet. Can't lose what your do not already have.
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Because gas consumption for EU is growing and will keep growing at least until 2030. And Nord Stream - 1 is working a little above its full capacity. The issue is Russia has no additional means of boosting the delivery of the gas to Germany (one of the biggest gas consumers) except the other pipeline going through Poland, also working at almost full capacity and another one going through Ukraine, which Russia doesn't want to use for many reasons. In this scenario, Germany will have to buy additional gas from other sources, mostly LPG, with US being a significant exporter of it. LPG price is higher, mostly due to logistics and also because there are not many free sources of LPG that are currently on the market. This will boost the price. In a way the price will benefit to Russia as well (although selling more to Europe would be more beneficial). The biggest looser in this situation is EU up until they switch to green energy. High gas prices will force this, making wind and sun more interesting for consumers. 2000$ prices will make green power recoup investments in just 5 - 7 years, changing the market entirely.
 
DarkNoon said:
Honestly European nations need to get their shit together and stop depending on other people including the US & Especially Russia. Start making your own energy! Start building your own militaries actually capable of defending yourself instead of relying on US or other nations.

Or is it Europe just can't make it on it's own period?
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One of the U.S. bigger oil refineries blew up this morning in Louisiana...on the same morning Germany announced halting Nord 2. Coincidence? https://www.manufacturing.net/energy/news/22068794/explosion-rocks-huge-louisiana-refinery .
 
Private Hope said:
Because gas consumption for EU is growing and will keep growing at least until 2030. And Nord Stream - 1 is working a little above its full capacity. The issue is Russia has no additional means of boosting the delivery of the gas to Germany (one of the biggest gas consumers) except the other pipeline going through Poland, also working at almost full capacity and another one going through Ukraine, which Russia doesn't want to use for many reasons. In this scenario, Germany will have to buy additional gas from other sources, mostly LPG, with US being a significant exporter of it. LPG price is higher, mostly due to logistics and also because there are not many free sources of LPG that are currently on the market. This will boost the price. In a way the price will benefit to Russia as well (although selling more to Europe would be more beneficial). The biggest looser in this situation is EU up until they switch to green energy. High gas prices will force this, making wind and sun more interesting for consumers. 2000$ prices will make green power recoup investments in just 5 - 7 years, changing the market entirely.
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Moving convo to new thread this is off topic and where gonna get yelled at. Please continue here:

Can Europe take care of itself by itself realistically?

Can Europe take care of itself by itself? IF YOU ARE FROM EUROPE PLEASE REMOVE YOUR NATIONALISM AND REALLY ASSESS WEATHER EUROPE CAN REALLY STAND ON ITS OWN IN GENERAL? It's not just about your nation but Europe as a whole. Your talking spanning a decade plus. Right now they are not losing...
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