Opps my bad. I buried the lead. Sorry. I suck at this….
I appended my answer above. Sorry again.
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I appended my answer above. Sorry again.
Not at all. Also I agree terror alarm is pretty unreliable.
But none the less it is true NATO drawing up defensive plans like they did during the cold war now confirmed via Reuters. Which NATO should of been doing this like yesterday anyways...
I’m trying to organize my thoughts on an iphone in a ziploc bag, standing in my barn, taking a break from cleaning out the manure in the lamb pen. So you can see how well this is going….
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So they are claiming that Russia is about to attack NATO targets?Oh, its confirmed that Russia is about to conduct first strikes on Poland and Germany? I missed that.
I said thery may be right but they ALWAYS have explosive breaking news. Just once I’d like to see them say nothing much happened today or even “Some Russian got shot by a Ukrainian farmer because he was a dumb ass…”
I didnt say they were wrong. In fact I said the may be correct. They are just distracting and blurring up the landscape. IMHO. YMMV
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That is the tweet, just below the NATO WarPlanning tweet.
Here is a link to the tweet. They closed off comments.
Looks like that account is going paid-only.
AGAIN Fourth Time Posting This:..........
That is what they are getting it from. But yea terror alarm just sensational and distorted the truth.
BUT it is true and confirmed NATO is drawing up defensive plans.
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The fact they are going paid only tells me they have someone in the know. But I could be wrong.
Secondly, NATO has had these defense plans for years. This is nothing new in my opinion. Just a press release to keep beating the drums of war and make out NATO to be the victim in the future.
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It’s just a public responce to Russias rhetoric about the war escalating and nuclear threats.
It would be foolhardy to not respond publicly in some organized manner. And maybe some bombastic rhetoric
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Proxy proxies lol
I'm curious why the F-16 in particular is the object of these discussions. I mean I get that UA has asked for them specifically but why? Why not F-15s, 18s, old fantoms, etc?
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That link has nothing to do with what Terror Alarm is claiming about a surprise attack on NATO targets.
Yes but wonder how long they been training in the UK. Hmm..You don't just jump into an F-16 and become proficient pilot.
https://military-wiki.com/how-long-does-it-take-for-a-ukrainian-pilot-to-master-the-f-16/
it takes about 2 years for a trainee pilot to learn to fly an F-16.
This Is How Long It Would Really Take Ukraine's Pilots To Convert To F-16s
Just learning to fly an F-16 is a small aspect of what it would take for a Ukrainian fighter pilot to be combat ready in the type.www.thedrive.com
the full F-16 Basic Course, also known as the B-Course, is typically a nine-month process for pilots fresh out of pilot training.
I thought he was tying it in with the news that NATO is drawing up defense plans.
Far, far easier to maintain.
Dependable and basically the cheapest Fighter at least equal to all fully realized Soviet…err Russian threats.
Also there are a metric sh*t ton of them. IMHO
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I wonder if NATO contries would act as Belarus so they have airfields they can use
Edit never mind the combat radius is about 550 km, so they would need airbases in Ukraine itself before they can reach the east.
Edit never mind the combat radius is about 550 km, so they would need airbases in Ukraine itself before they can reach the east.
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I would imagine it’s the F-16 because it’s the principle US made fighter in nato nations. It allows the perception that this effort is being shared by European nato as well. It’s actually publicly been instigated and advanced by many European nato members.
If two squadrons of fighters were just flown from the US and handed over. It would be another example of imperialistic actions by the US and fodder for Russia. As well fuel anti anti-war groups in US.
As European nations donate older F-16’s they make room for new F-35’s in their own Air Force. Also with European F-16’s going there is no issue of catching up their maintenance routine rather than pull from stock. I would imagine most European nato members are pretty decent about maintenance and updates.
It’s a twofer
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So WAR because the US cant face losing its hegemony. I will wave a flag as you all are sent to the meat grinder soon. Tell Berlin to expect Russian tanks again soon!
No WAR its because the Russians attacked their weak neighbor without warning or cause. About 385,000 people are dead or wounded because of these assholes, many with their hands tied behind their backs in a basement somewhere. These Russians have just figured out they have stuck their dick in a blender. After Russia leaves 100% of the Ukraine, mostly with a boot up their ass, The Negotiations can start.
But thats in the future. Right now its hog killing time. Its nasty brutal work of killing Russians by any means acceptable under the Laws of War. It needs to be quick, violent and ugly. The faster the Russians die the sooner they will stay away.
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This is not a war of US aggression, if you followed it leading up to the invasion the US was reluctant to engage and it was other nato nations who were demanding action. It was the US and a few others who were calling for Zelinski to abdicate and let Ukraine fall in the first week of the war. Is that irrational imperialism?
If it’s a hegemony, it’s a hegemony of Europe that is being contested here.
Russia wants to make inroads into Eastern Europe. And almost all of the Eastern European nations do not want to see that. That is exactly why they willing joined nato. Past and possible future Russian imperial expansion.
Berlin should expect Russia tanks ? Seriously what tanks should they expect T-55’s and T-34’s.
Russian tanks failed to roll up Ukraine and somehow their going to roll up Poland and eastern Germany all the way to Berlin.
Can you support that with anything showing Russia has stockpiled and held in reserve significant numbers of T-80’s T-90’s and T-14’s.
I’ve heard this theory but no one is supporting it. If you can I would like to see it because it would be relevant to the conflict.
Also I would like to thank your for proving my point about Russian long term plans for occupying Eastern Europe again. The tanks rolling into Berlin was illuminating.
It’s good to clearly know who the aggressor is here.
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Omg “dick in a blender” you made me chuckle thanks!No WAR its because the Russians attacked their weak neighbor without warning or cause. About 385,000 people are dead or wounded because of these assholes, many with their hands tied behind their backs in a basement somewhere. These Russians have just figured out they have stuck their dick in a blender. After Russia leaves 100% of the Ukraine, mostly with a boot up their ass, The Negotiations can start.
But thats in the future. Right now its hog killing time. Its nasty brutal work of killing Russians by any means acceptable under the Laws of War. It needs to be quick, violent and ugly. The faster the Russians die the sooner they will stay away.
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I gotta admit, I laughed too.
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