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What's up with Zs little commie outfit? We didn't send them enough money for a suit to meet the leader of the free world. He looks like Mao Zedong!
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Thank you for proving my point. It truly is cringe and gutt wrenching to see. Entire far right been saturated/infiltrated with Russian propaganda and false empty threats from Putin.

Trump delivering everything EVERY Russian leader has ever wanted. Shameful. Un-American. Traitors.
 
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Like nato and Biden didn’t do for three years to fight this to win?
Oh. My. God. Whataboutisim. GOP controls the government, all three branches, no excuses. Instead of doing somthing about it GOP is complaining about how's it been mishandled and then processed to do nothing about it but give up and embolden Putin.

Do something about it instead of putting your heads in the sand, appeasing Putin, and subsequently kicking the proverbial can down the road only for things to be worse in the future.

America needs to be saved from this walking disaster known as Trump and the GOP party purged/unelected of this Russia appeasement bullshit which is so unbelievablly un-American it's truly gutt wrenching.

Trump has done more to hurt/weaken America in the past two months then our enemies could have ever hoped for in the past decade.
 
Oh. My. God. Whataboutisim. GOP controls the government, all three branches, no excuses. Instead of doing somthing about it GOP is complaining about how's it been mishandled and then processed to do nothing about it but give up and embolden Putin.

Do something about it instead of putting your heads in the sand, appeasing Putin, and subsequently kicking the proverbial can down the road only for things to be worse in the future.

America needs to be saved from this walking disaster known as Trump and the GOP party purged/unelected of this Russia appeasement bullshit which is so unbelievablly un-American it's truly gutt wrenching.

Trump has done more to hurt/weaken America in the past two months then our enemies could have ever hoped for in the past decade.
Again WHAT! You keep saying Trump needs to do something…. And that he has done more to hurt …,,

WHAT exactly should he be doing to fight this war to win it or bring about peace.

Or is it simple that we should keep spending and Ukrainians and Russians keep dying indefinitely.
 
First step, not emboldening Putin, not giving up, and not weakening our alliances on the world stage. Jesus christ.
How you act like it’s a given and if what we had been doing was working to win this war then it might be self obvious.
But is hasn’t worked so what specificity could be done to win the fight or bring about peace that is different than doing what we e done in the past.

Because I’m sure in your life experiences, if the people you are working with and supposed to be your friends are intractable in their unwillingness to change because change is obviously necessary. That sometime you just might piss them off getting them to recognize the need to change. And not just pissing off your friends if you believe they are wrong is not a good life strategy.

-We tried to work out a joint economic bi lateral tie with Ukraine,
-We green lit Europeans nations to place peace keepers in Ukraine as something we would support.
-we kissed Putin’s ass because everyone is to childish or proud to recognize that is what you do sometimes with nations who have nukes

Were the members of NATO ever going to greenlite Ukraine entering the alliance after all this. doubt it
So not telling someone the truth because it will piss them off is not a strategy.
 
As far as emboldening Putin he’s had Europe by the balls ever since he started mumbling about nuking a European capital.
 
Britain is ready to deploy troops on the ground and planes in the air in Ukraine to achieve "lasting peace" and to ensure that Putin "doesn't come back".

This was stated by the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Keir Starmer at the final press conference after the meeting with the US President Donald Trump in the White House.

Instead, the US president emphasized that he is ready to contribute to the reconstruction of Ukraine after the US signs a subsoil agreement with Ukraine.
IMO, They don’t have enough of anything to do that without withdrawing from another area.
 
One person is guilty and two other are almost as bad. Stop the personal attacks.

This thread is locked until someone else decides to open it. Y’all need a time out.

Do not make another thread on the same subject for discussions either. Move on, report news for a bit.
Actually, I'm going to take this one step further. I'm going to start issuing temporary bans for repeat offenders. Grow up and discuss current events like adults or be put in the timeout corner like children. This is entirely within your control, so choose wisely.
 
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You are posting others opinions and not news or news stories. It’s actually beginning to overwhelm the rest of your fine work. Just something to cogitate.
I would like to point out that the opinions of other countries are part of the news, if you are talking about the Trump-Zelensky meeting that has gone around the world.

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The entire West is against Trump and Vance's remarks, except Hungary and Italy, which are procrastinating.
 
You are posting others opinions and not news or news stories. It’s actually beginning to overwhelm the rest of your fine work. Just something to cogitate.
whell there's more to that but you know if i post something about this same subject it gets taken off.
 
I would like to point out that the opinions of other countries are part of the news, if you are talking about the Trump-Zelensky meeting that has gone around the world.

Short summary:
The entire West is against Trump and Vance's remarks, except Hungary and Italy, which are procrastinating.
Meloni actually issued a blanket statement condemning Trump's statements saying every rift in the west hurts us. She is fairly pro Ukraine if I remember correctly.
 
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I would like to point out that the opinions of other countries are part of the news, if you are talking about the Trump-Zelensky meeting that has gone around the world.

Short summary:
The entire West is against Trump and Vance's remarks, except Hungary and Italy, which are procrastinating.
There’s a difference between someone like Bolton who has no power and someone like Macron who actually does.
 
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I would like to point out that the opinions of other countries are part of the news, if you are talking about the Trump-Zelensky meeting that has gone around the world.

Short summary:
The entire West is against Trump and Vance's remarks, except Hungary and Italy, which are procrastinating.
Don’t care about anywhere. There is US and Not US
I wish we left the rest of the world alone and they returned the curtesy.

I really mean it when I say I don’t care about opinions of the countries that have been leeching off US for the last 80 years.

NATO can suck it.

The EU is our direct competitor, they can suck it.

The entire Middle East and SW Asia already sucks

Africa can just continue being what ever it is they want.

The Americas can do whatever they want (strongmen and death squads seem the norm)

The best the US has done for the world was an example when there were few Democracies. Our innovations were spread through trade. Our direct intervention usually ends up airlifting off our embassy roof as everything goes to shite.

Leave Europe and Europe’s problems to the Europeans. I’m sure they can handle it…if not I don’t care. See the trend? It is past time for the USA to look after its self. If people from “not here” are angry we are probably doing the right thing…for US.

Australia you go do what you, call us if we can help. Y’all about the only ones not seriously leeching. You have mounted you own peace keeping missions that went surprisingly well. (Most end up a dumpster fire)

Same thing with S.America. Call if you need use.

Y’all write often and we can exchange Christmas cards!
 
Don’t care about anywhere. There is US and Not US
I wish we left the rest of the world alone and they returned the curtesy.

I really mean it when I say I don’t care about opinions of the countries that have been leeching off US for the last 80 years.

NATO can suck it.

The EU is our direct competitor, they can suck it.

The entire Middle East and SW Asia already sucks

Africa can just continue being what ever it is they want.

The Americas can do whatever they want (strongmen and death squads seem the norm)

The best the US has done for the world was an example when there were few Democracies. Our innovations were spread through trade. Our direct intervention usually ends up airlifting off our embassy roof as everything goes to shite.

Leave Europe and Europe’s problems to the Europeans. I’m sure they can handle it…if not I don’t care. See the trend? It is past time for the USA to look after its self. If people from “not here” are angry we are probably doing the right thing…for US.

Australia you go do what you, call us if we can help. Y’all about the only ones not seriously leeching. You have mounted you own peace keeping missions that went surprisingly well. (Most end up a dumpster fire)

Same thing with S.America. Call if you need use.

Y’all write often and we can exchange Christmas cards!
Yeah let's bomb them all!
Too many places sucking it...not good for business.
 
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