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US-Israel (&) Iran-Lebanon | "Understanding" Deal May Be Signed Soon | May 27th/June 14th | Analysis

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This is also sort of along the lines of my thinking. Right after Trump makes a big political show about pulling out and his phone call where he tells Netanyahu he'll be fighting alone goes public an American helicopter is reportedly downed by a shahed with no casualties and thus no need for publicly accessible evidence of the incident, justifying dragging the US back in.

While notably the US continued building up assets the entire time despite what Trump was saying to the public.

To me this reads as a politically convenient report that allows Trump/the US to continue their existing "plan" with renewed political justification.
I don't care if this is a "Gulf of Tonkin" type incident! finish the job! Depose the IRGC!
 
I see allot of reports of various Gulf countries air defense shooting down missiles and drones. Wonder how much of it is actually American air defense or a least Americans running the systems?
 
I don't care if this is a "Gulf of Tonkin" type incident! finish the job! Depose the IRGC!
You absolutely should care. How many thousand of lives did that Gulf of Tonkin incident cost us by getting involved in a land war in Asia? Against a country that was in no way, shape or form a direct threat to the US. Politicians used the manufactured fear of the communism domino theory and a manufactured incident to justify a war that served no purpose to the American people.

As a former Marine, I would hope you would be offended by orders from a CINC that places soldiers in harms way for no valid military reason, but to profit off the war that kills them.
 
You absolutely should care. How many thousand of lives did that Gulf of Tonkin incident cost us by getting involved in a land war in Asia? Against a country that was in no way, shape or form a direct threat to the US. Politicians used the manufactured fear of the communism domino theory and a manufactured incident to justify a war that served no purpose to the American people.

As a former Marine, I would hope you would be offended by orders from a CINC that places soldiers in harms way for no valid military reason, but to profit off the war that kills them.
Well, I'm not. I'm not sure you understand the mentality of the USMC. Marines LIKE to go in harm's way. I'm sure the Marines Trump has floating around on those barges in the Middle East would love to take it to the Iranians.

By the way, there's no such thing as a former Marine. That Eagle Globe and Ancher is for life.
 
Well, I'm not. I'm not sure you understand the mentality of the USMC. Marines LIKE to go in harm's way. I'm sure the Marines Trump has floating around on those barges in the Middle East would love to take it to the Iranians.

By the way, there's no such thing as a former Marine. That Eagle Globe and Ancher is for life.
Trump cares about death optics too much, he won't put marines on any of the outlying islands without a massive renewed air campaign on those targets and whatever they can hit in Iran proper. It's going to create casualties regardless but I'd be willing to bet those at the DOD are pushing for a renewed air campaign against Iranian tunnels and launch sites before anything truly hits the fan.
 
Trump cares about death optics too much, he won't put marines on any of the outlying islands without a massive renewed air campaign on those targets and whatever they can hit in Iran proper.
I can't see the US putting boots on the ground in any real military capacity. Rescue was one thing. Marching on Tehran is something completely different.
 
Well, I'm not. I'm not sure you understand the mentality of the USMC.
Recognize? Yes. Understand? No.

Marines LIKE to go in harm's way.
I deliberately put myself in the path of hurricanes and tornadoes, so who am I to judge?

I'm sure the Marines Trump has floating around on those barges in the Middle East would love to take it to the Iranians.
I have no doubt this is true. I just don't like to see anyone dying for someone else's profit, especially someone who hasn't served themselves.

By the way, there's no such thing as a former Marine. That Eagle Globe and Ancher is for life.
I knew that. I've been corrected on it enough times you'd think it would stick... 🤷‍♂️
 
My suspicion is this had turned into a massive economic blockade.
There will be no massive invasion.

Yes ideally we’d like to see the IRGC gone and replaced with something not radical. But let’s be honest the only way that will be achieved is if the Iranian people want it.
Absent of that what is the foundational purpose of choking the life out of the IRGC. Incapacitate them enough that they are no longer able to support or materially aid terrorist activities like they have for the last 40 yr.
So while we might not remove the Ayatollah’s can we damage them enough that they are no longer a major terrorist sponsor. Not altogether gone but no longer the threat that they were.

Minimized loss of life for our military, and a defanged Iran.

Again I can see why this was done geopolitically overall. It’s risky though
 
Well, I'm not. I'm not sure you understand the mentality of the USMC. Marines LIKE to go in harm's way. I'm sure the Marines Trump has floating around on those barges in the Middle East would love to take it to the Iranians.

By the way, there's no such thing as a former Marine. That Eagle Globe and Ancher is for life.
Getting on a bit.🧓
 
Getting on a bit.🧓
I'm just getting PO'd at how this war is being prosecuted. If you're going to conduct war, CONDUCT WAR and get it over as quick as possible! By the way I reposted this to Trumps Truth social page along with that SOS Iranian vid. 👇
 
U.S. President Donald J. Trump spoke from the Situation Room earlier with Fox News’ Trey Yingst, telling him that 49 BGM-109 Tomahawk Land Attack Missiles (TLAM) have so far been fired at targets in Iran, along with strikes by fighter aircraft, with some strikes occurring only miles from the Iranian capital of Tehran. President Trump added that he spoke directly with Iranian officials tonight who asked him to stop bombing, stating that the strikes will stop soon and if they don't sign the agreement, “we'll bomb the shit out of them.”
What does he think this is! A corporation board room! :mad: The only DEAL should be surrender or die!
 
I'm just getting PO'd at how this war is being prosecuted. If you're going to conduct war, CONDUCT WAR and get it over as quick as possible! By the way I reposted this to Trumps Truth social page along with that SOS Iranian vid. 👇
Regardless of whether I agree with the war or not, I agree with your position. Either fight the war or don't go to war. Half-way is the way to lose.
 
I almost made an insider trading joke this morning and I held off, but idk how the hell this isn’t insider trading at this point.
 
Don't know if this was posted anywhere but some food for thought.
 
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