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So….is this something to worry about or no? I feel I’m having deja vu of 2022 when America was warning Ukraine that Russia would invade.
We have no idea what the U.S. actually told Poland in this situation. From the sounds of it, what was told was there was some discussion in the Kremlin but nothing concrete and it’s limited in how much discussion took place. We also don’t know the quality of the intelligence that was shared. As opposed to 2022 when the U.S. screamed, hey these guys are going to invade.
 
So far (and things change rapidly) it appears to be either sensationalist headlines from a usual character OR very conveniently timed Polish sources released at a time when the USA has ALREADY reduced a significant amount of combat troops in Poland AND Trump was considering more cuts.

You pick. Its seems unlikely in the extreme that Russia would attack NATO.

Finally yes I agree with you as my first thought was this sounds like the Ukraine war. Of course after logical thinking returned to me it seemed quite evident that it was sensationalism. IMHO.
I have to admit upon reading the telegraph article I was unnerved, but after reading the original it became quite clear the telegraph one is sensationalist. It’s definitely no coincidence this came out right before the NATO summit.
 
We have no idea what the U.S. actually told Poland in this situation. From the sounds of it, what was told was there was some discussion in the Kremlin but nothing concrete and it’s limited in how much discussion took place. We also don’t know the quality of the intelligence that was shared. As opposed to 2022 when the U.S. screamed, hey these guys are going to invade.
Yes in 22 we had months of major buildup of troops and equipment along the boarder 150-180,000 compared to 20-30,000 along the entire Finland Baltic boarders.

It’s not that doesn’t have some meaning but I don’t think it’s indicative of a pre-invasion buildup
 
Yes in 22 we had months of major buildup of troops and equipment along the boarder 150-180,000 compared to 20-30,000 along the entire Finland Baltic boarders.

It’s not that doesn’t have some meaning but I don’t think it’s indicative of a pre-invasion buildup
As far as I’m aware there isn’t even a buildup on the Finland Baltic border at this point, it’s a construction of installations that could house troops after the war in Ukraine. I think one important thing people always seem to miss when talking about a post-Ukraine war world is the massive DMZ that Russia is going to have to have troops on. If Russia ever made an attempt to invade the Baltics, you can bet damn well the Ukrainians would make a push to get every inch of territory the Russians were holding at the same time no matter whatever agreement is in place. So Russia will realistically need at least 500,000 troops in place to hold that line.
 
As far as I’m aware there isn’t even a buildup on the Finland Baltic border at this point, it’s a construction of installations that could house troops after the war in Ukraine. I think one important thing people always seem to miss when talking about a post-Ukraine war world is the massive DMZ that Russia is going to have to have troops on. If Russia ever made an attempt to invade the Baltics, you can bet damn well the Ukrainians would make a push to get every inch of territory the Russians were holding at the same time no matter whatever agreement is in place. So Russia will realistically need at least 500,000 troops in place to hold that line.
The Russian response adjoining the Baltics and Finland I think we agree are mostly infrastructure and check point / monitoring locations. I also think at this juncture it is Russia reacting to changes to NATO forces in the east. I don’t see what NATO has done as being overly provocative. To not expect this activity on both sides of the boarder given the last 31/2 years would not be realistic. NATOs build up is not pre-invasion nor is Russia’s.
 
The Russian response adjoining the Baltics and Finland I think we agree are mostly infrastructure and check point / monitoring locations. I also think at this juncture it is Russia reacting to changes to NATO forces in the east. I don’t see what NATO has done as being overly provocative. To not expect this activity on both sides of the boarder given the last 31/2 years would not be realistic. NATOs build up is not pre-invasion nor is Russia’s.
Yeah this has been basically my take as well, it’s surprising to see so many people act like the Russian buildup in the north is surprising when it’s exactly what they said they would do in response to Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
 
Yeah this has been basically my take as well, it’s surprising to see so many people act like the Russian buildup in the north is surprising when it’s exactly what they said they would do in response to Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
They have to do something and I suspect much of what they are doing is for show. At least at this point.
 
They have to do something and I suspect much of what they are doing is for show. At least at this point.
I would argue it’s entirely for show, they’ve also had to scale down their plans due to committing reserves to Ukraine. So any plans for the revitalized district are going to take even longer than originally planned.
 
Contrary to what many here might consider as a negative. Consider the US posturing for a smaller presence in Europe/NATO. All while Western European nations scrambling to bolster their militaries and force projection as a good thing.
I have been pretty open about advocating for the U.S. to transplant itself from Europe to Asia. Europe should have no problem defending itself against a regional power (Russia), while we focus on more pressing matters which is the red dragon waking in the Pacific, threatening the very order we, our parents, and our grandfathers made during & after WWII.

And after Iran, I am definitely even more in favor of doubling down on leaving EU problems to EU nations, while again, we focus on things that truly matter, or... better put, more pressing matters at the moment in the Asian theater.

After Iran. It's not just the willingness of Europe to help us with China that came into question as well, but their very military capabilities too. But that's a different discussion.

Bottom line. We have bigger fish to fry then Russia. No excuses EU can't handle it with their combined efforts. Sorry, you may need to go without free healthcare, education, and for some say goodbye to that 4 day work week EU.

Okay. Here ends my valid point/rant. 😂
 
I have been pretty open about advocating for the U.S. to transplant itself from Europe to Asia. Europe should have no problem defending itself against a regional power (Russia), while we focus on more pressing matters which is the red dragon waking in the Pacific, threatening the very order we, our parents, and our grandfathers made during & after WWII.

And after Iran, I am definitely even more in favor of doubling down on leaving EU problems to EU nations, while again, we focus on things that truly matter, or... better put, more pressing matters at the moment in the Asian theater.

After Iran. It's not just the willingness of Europe to help us with China that came into question as well, but their very military capabilities too. But that's a different discussion.

Bottom line. We have bigger fish to fry then Russia. No excuses EU can't handle it with their combined efforts. Sorry, you may need to go without free healthcare, education, and for some say goodbye to that 4 day work week EU.

Okay. Here ends my valid point/rant. 😂
My big issue with the EU lately, is them acting like we haven’t been discussing the pivot to Asia for the past 16 years now. They make it seem like it came out of nowhere when it was first discussed during Obama’s first term.
 
The only source for this is a pro-Ukrainian propaganda outlet.
ATESH has a mixed but generally respectable track record:
It has accurately reported some Russian troop movements and military activity that were later corroborated.
It has also made claims that have never been independently confirmed.
Because it is a partisan organization fighting Russia, it has an incentive to emphasize signs of Russian weakness.
For that reason, intelligence analysts typically treat its reports as potentially useful but requiring independent confirmation.
 
ATESH has a mixed but generally respectable track record:
It has accurately reported some Russian troop movements and military activity that were later corroborated.
It has also made claims that have never been independently confirmed.
Because it is a partisan organization fighting Russia, it has an incentive to emphasize signs of Russian weakness.
For that reason, intelligence analysts typically treat its reports as potentially useful but requiring independent confirmation.
Which is my point, there is no independent confirmation. There may have been some small scale evacuation that’s being presented as full scale or it may be total bs, but there is zero verified evidence of the claim.
 
Which is my point, there is no independent confirmation. There may have been some small scale evacuation that’s being presented as full scale or it may be total bs, but there is zero verified evidence of the claim.
Correct, but if there is one thing I've learned over 7 decades is the old adage:
"Where there is smoke, there is fire"... to be true.
Make of it what one will, but there is smoke.
 
Correct, but if there is one thing I've learned over 7 decades is the old adage:
"Where there is smoke, there is fire"... to be true.
Make of it what one will, but there is smoke.
Here’s the same source, making the same claim of officials evacuating, only in this one he claims they’d be out by June 21st.
 
Here’s the same source, making the same claim of officials evacuating, only in this one he claims they’d be out by June 21st.
To be absolutely clear, don't think Russia is "quietly preparing to leave" Crimea. (At THIS time)
I think it is preparing for the possibility of a much more intense Ukrainian campaign against Crimea over the coming months while intending to hold it.
 
My big issue with the EU lately, is them acting like we haven’t been discussing the pivot to Asia for the past 16 years now. They make it seem like it came out of nowhere when it was first discussed during Obama’s first term.
Remember Eisenhowers quote
Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower was the first NATO supreme veallied commander. Shortly after assuming that post, he wrote these words in February 1951:

“If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States, then this whole project [NATO] will have failed.”

He actively believed that Europe should actively stand up their own defense evidently much sooner they did.

Given his warning about the military industrial complex it sheds light on what he was warning about.
 
Remember Eisenhowers quote
Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower was the first NATO supreme veallied commander. Shortly after assuming that post, he wrote these words in February 1951:

“If in 10 years, all American troops stationed in Europe for national defense purposes have not been returned to the United States, then this whole project [NATO] will have failed.”

He actively believed that Europe should actively stand up their own defense evidently much sooner they did.

Given his warning about the military industrial complex it sheds light on what he was warning about.
While Washington complains about the financial cost of NATO, the alliance is actually an incredible cash cow for the American military industry (the military-industrial complex). Europeans buy massively "American," which creates a massive and very profitable return on investment for the United States.

That's the real reason.
 
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