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Belgorod Russian Separatist Attacks | 5/22/2023

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DEFCON Warning System said:
I'm finding that curious as well.
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At a guess, the mainstream media is silent since the information is not entirely solid just yet. It's a rapidly developing situation and the fog of war is immensely thick; I haven't been able to get anything new out of social media or other sources just yet from within the past four hours. Then again, the mainstream media can be quite slow to catch on to these developing situations. Either that, or there's concerns that breaking this story out too soon will cause widespread panic in the U.S public. After all, I believe this is the first time since World War II that any meaningful attacking force has pushed onto internationally-recognized Russian soil.

It is possible that Russia has largely repulsed the attack by now as well, but I wager that if the settlement(s) captured by the AFU/Russian Freedom Legion so far are not retaken within the next twelve hours and if more news leaks out, the story will snowball, as will the chances of Russia responding drastically.
 
Guys I dunno what you’re usually reading but every single major media outlet has been talking of the Belgorod happenings.
CNN, NYT, guardian, repubblica, el pais, Al Jazeera, le monde.
I really struggle to understand the recurrent “they’re not telling us the truth” sentiment here.

You gotta take the facts for how they are and not depending on suppositions over unrealistic things.

Even the media has a limit on the amount of unsourced crap it can deliver to the public.
While it’s true that in Belgorod region there’s been an assault all the part regarding the nukes is fake…there’s nothing about the transfer of nuclear warheads.
Why? Because it’s another invention which came from the usual sketchy twitter accounts which unfortunately found space here.
If this was true you would have seen already some kind of posturing from Russia. These things are impossible to be kept hidden.

Not even IWS has made any kind of reference.
That ammo depot in the belgorod region which has been part of the yesterdays narrative, it’s something like 13 years that doesn’t store anything but conventional ammo.

Also there’s a limit over how big you can depict things.
While again…there has been a “military action” in that region, by Ukraine or whoever they are (aka Russians driving Ukrainian marked tanks and using Ukrainian weapons), the damages, the real material effects of these actions are nearly nothing.

Apart from the psychological implication over the inhabitants and the Russian govt of course.
Which is the biggest aspect here.
 
I see alot of media writing about it - but the focus is more on "drawing Russian Forces away from other fronts" then the battalion sized action. My guess is they have no clue whats going on as well, and maybe they dont have reporters in the area ( since the action has been elsewhere ) maybe the news you/we follow do not want to show a that it was a "western plan" and want the Russians to react on internal affairs. ( not even sure they are allowed into the area because many have been thrown out of Russia )

The goals, might have been :
Capture the Nuclear ammo area - although it was reported to been evakuated, we know that the Russian system has holes. If Ukraine would have gained Nuclear warheads, Russias Threats would vanish.

Primary goals, must have been showing the Russians that there is an alternative to Putins Regime ( A flag they can gather under, something Putin fears if we trust the experts :P ) The second goal must have been to make Russia consider to post more troops on the border in general to stop similar events to happen in the future. I dont see how a battallion sized unit ( maybe even a regiment ) would require them to withdraw on the active fronts, they can just take those they have stationed in Belarus and put them to use.
 
It’s all right on time following the heals of the social media videos psych attack mentioned last week.

Release the videos then create some minor incident that just might encourage more domestic incidents around Russia..

This incident by its self isn’t a big deal, but will it encourage more incidents like this?
 
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This is all about this imho.
The rest is just speculation over 4 damaged (minor) buildings in a village in Belgorod region.
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Yep they might have created a scab, now they just set back and see if it gets scratched at.
 
Defcon0 said:
Guys I dunno what you’re usually reading but every single major media outlet has been talking of the Belgorod happenings.
CNN, NYT, guardian, repubblica, el pais, Al Jazeera, le monde.
I really struggle to understand the recurrent “they’re not telling us the truth” sentiment here.

You gotta take the facts for how they are and not depending on suppositions over unrealistic things.

Even the media has a limit on the amount of unsourced crap it can deliver to the public.
While it’s true that in Belgorod region there’s been an assault all the part regarding the nukes is fake…there’s nothing about the transfer of nuclear warheads.
Why? Because it’s another invention which came from the usual sketchy twitter accounts which unfortunately found space here.
If this was true you would have seen already some kind of posturing from Russia. These things are impossible to be kept hidden.

Not even IWS has made any kind of reference.
That ammo depot in the belgorod region which has been part of the yesterdays narrative, it’s something like 13 years that doesn’t store anything but conventional ammo.

Also there’s a limit over how big you can depict things.
While again…there has been a “military action” in that region, by Ukraine or whoever they are (aka Russians driving Ukrainian marked tanks and using Ukrainian weapons), the damages, the real material effects of these actions are nearly nothing.

Apart from the psychological implication over the inhabitants and the Russian govt of course.
Which is the biggest aspect here.
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Funny it happened a few days after Bakhmut was taken. Almost like some type of psychological operation, aimed at mitigating the loss of Bakhmut to a PMC - backed up by Russian aviation etc.
 
Russian Volunteer Corps on the move.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1660965637173174273

Almost impossible to tell if this is real or staged.
But if, and it's a big IF, this is real, notice what appears to be a British patch on the soldier in the video.
Could be donated uniforms.
However , again IF this is real, it could give Putin ammo to claim that the incursion into Belgorod involved NATO troops.
 
Putin doesn’t need an excuse to bomb a NATO country. He’s been underlining NATO involvement in Ukraine for months.
As he didn’t need one to invade Ukraine.

Also…British flag is completely different. Come on.
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Defcon0 said:
Putin doesn’t need an excuse to bomb a NATO country. He’s been underlining NATO involvement in Ukraine for months.
As he didn’t need one to invade Ukraine.

Also…British flag is completely different. Come on.
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Didn’t say British flag, simply stated APPEARS to be a British PATCH.
I don’t have access to a fully blown still picture, do you?
As a matter of fact, I stated it very well could be fake.
 
Even IF that’s in the end will be a British patch…it means nothing.
We can also say that if the moon is gonna be full today Putin will do a lap dance at the cremlin.
Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me as an information over which we could build an analysis over implications.

Could even be a video staged by the Russian meant to prove a nato involvement by putting a uk patch on the arm of a soldier. Anyone can do it.
 
@Irag8er
After a careful inspection with a former colleague I can say that I have to retract what I said...this is indeed a UK flag.
But that's more than normal...since the beginning of the donations Ukraine did not pull the patches that were on the uniform that they received as a sign of respect.
Some countries have asked them to remove the patches, some others are fine with it...on some uniforms you can also see the details of the regiment from where they came.
Nothing risky to signal here.
That side patch does not legally represent the country for which the soldier is fighting for/by (Hague/Geneva convention)

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Defcon0 said:
@Irag8er
After a careful inspection with a former colleague I can say that I have to retract what I said...this is indeed a UK flag.
But that's more than normal...since the beginning of the donations Ukraine did not pull the patches that were on the uniform that they received as a sign of respect.
Some countries have asked them to remove the patches, some others are fine with it...on some uniforms you can also see the details of the regiment from where they came.
Nothing risky to signal here.
That side patch does not legally represent the country for which the soldier is fighting for/by.

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The question now remains, is this a real or staged video.
Also, how or if Putin will react to it.
 
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